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[#86] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
minpin:

OK, finally got this sorted out and learned a lot about Gulda!

Gulda recorded the Beethoven cycle 2 times.

The first cycle was by Decca in the 50's, in MONO, this one is easily available:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/plays-Beethoven-Vienna-Philharmonic-Orchestra/dp/B0009A41ZQ

This one has some interesting fillers. The Ricci/Gulda sonatas particularly intrigue me. The piano concerto #1 with Bohm must be good too.

The second cycle was by the label Amadeo in 1967, in STEREO, and now reissued by BOTH Brilliant Classics AND Universal.

The Brilliant Classics probably can be found in Shun Cheong Mong Kok:

http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Piano-Sonatas-Complete-Set/dp/B000CEWWBY

The UNIVERSAL issue, hmmm, is very confusing. No info on the internet! No pic. It is a sparse WHITE box, but on the back you see logos of Universal, Decca and Amadeo. It contains all the sonatas + ALL the piano concerti with Horst Stein. This set I have seen in both Pro Sound and HMV. Fueled by curiosity, I have telephone reserved for myself a set in Pro Sound. They may not have another set, but you can ask for my set to at least see what it looks like. Should you want it, you can have priority. Check HMV central too!

Of course, if one only wants the sonatas, Brilliant Classics is a better buy.
doctorjohn
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2006-11-17 15:34
[#87] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Beethoven's piano sonata have been the subject of interest of all major pianist, and they all put their individual stamp on it.

Kempff was not as muscular as Emil Gilels or Gulda, but he is lyrical, poetic, inspirational and he can let the flow naturally. His tempo was fast in general, bringing a sense of urgency to the music. However, his tonal was glassy and lacking the power to play the vigorous passage of appasionata sonata and the third movement of Moonlight. But in the late piano sonata, he was second to none, especially in the last three Op 109-111, the playing is so natural that it seems that he improvised it on spot. Probably the best late piano sonata I have heard off.

Kovacevich have a huge dynamic and emotional range , he played the loud passage very loud and the soft passage very soft and slow, the opening of Op. 10 sonata was a case in point. Unfortunately, his piano tonal did not have the beauty of Emil Gilels or Gulda. However, the demonstrative grade recording give him an edge over the other version.

Pollini was a pupil of Michalangeli, and this recording showed what is the best balance between technical finish and senistivity. Every note was played under the accurate control of Pollini, listen to the last movement of Op. 111, there are a passage where a series of chord which have to played with escalating intensity, Pollini were the only one in my collections which can increase the intensity one note after the other until every end (the other pianist were Gulda, Kempff, Solomon). Despite his technical efficiency, his version is too cold and not as natural as kempff.


chankaiming
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2006-11-17 16:05
[#88] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Emil Gilel's played these great work in a relaxed, sensitive manner. Tempo were general slow, even meditative, bringing out the music's details and deep emotion underneath. I called it an old man's view. However, in `Appasionata' `Waldstein' and `Les Adieux' sonata, his playing suddenly speed up and bring out the excitment of the music. His piano tone was beautiful and powerful, and his cycle were as treasurable and any. There were one pitfall, that was it `Pastoral' sonata, where Gilels lose his usual sense of sensitivity and sound boring.

Finally was my preference, Gulda played in a urgent, exciting manner. In the early sonata, the urgent flowing tempo revealed its link with mozart. In the middle period sonata, these graceful yet tasteful playing made the music soudn right. But the best of all was the `Appasionata' sonata and other sonatas coming from the `Storm' period of Beethoven. Appasionata was the fastest playing I have heard of, yet every gesture was handsomely presented. The Late sonatas were equally fine, comparable to Pollini but still lack the last ounce of poetry and inspirational quality by Kempff. Good recording except a hint of hardness on loud passage.

Other recordings that fans of these sonatas should not miss include `Appasionata' Sonata by Richter on RCA and `Tempest' Sonata By Richter on EMI. Richter played the three notes opening of `Tempest' sonata like something inevitable is going to happen, and then he played the turbulent fast passage like a rainstorm. Despite poor recording, this is the first choice for `Tempest Sonata.


chankaiming
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2006-11-17 16:07
[#89] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
chankaiming兄:

"阿勞"又如何?

邊個邊個
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2006-11-17 16:14
[#90] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
I have only one sonata played by Arrau, which is Waldstein Sonata. His playing was thoughful and heavy, similiar to Emil Gilel in style but with more gravity. His playing can be compared to late Klemperer in Beethoven's symphony.

chankaiming
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2006-11-17 17:00
[#91] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Kovacevich

chankaiming
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2006-11-17 17:01
[#92] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Kempff

chankaiming
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2006-11-17 17:02
[#93] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Richter

chankaiming
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2006-11-17 17:04
[#94] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Solomon

chankaiming
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2006-11-17 17:04
[#95] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
聽過"阿勞"彈舒伯特好蒼茫一片好利害。

邊個邊個
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2006-11-17 17:11
[#96] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
For Beethoven Piano Sonata, does anyone know the one by Rudolf Buchbinder under Teldec?
I've listend to his playing of last movement of moonlight sonata long time ago in City Hall.

Since then, I began to relaize 'dynamic range' of Beethoven Sonata. Another 'dynamic range' piece I like is the last movement of Beethoven Sonata no.1

erictang
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2006-11-17 17:20
[#97] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
爆緊 Massenet: Le Carillon / Richard Bonynge

erictang
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2006-11-17 17:30
[#98] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
erictang,

On leave today? Have you moved to your new home?
albertino
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2006-11-17 17:50
[#99] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Hello Albert,

Yes, just moved on Monday. As of today, nearly unpack all the boxes but some of the floor is still covered.

Just place/connect the turntable to play, no 'tuning' yet...etc yet.

The cat is having a sweet dream while listening to 'La Traviata' Kleiber/Cotrubas/Domingo/Milnes under DG label



erictang
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2006-11-17 18:36
[#100] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Hi Albert,
The picture again. See if you can see it.

erictang
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2006-11-17 18:57
[#101] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
剛剛 World Channel 播完 Mutter 玩老莫第五提協...
中年的她仍俱風韻, 琴弦冼練.

第二樂章帶較濃酸味, 老莫也有心酸時....

lym
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2006-11-17 20:48
[#102] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
Doctor John
You are amazing! Thank you for the info.
Your offer is extremely tempted, but for the moment, I'll give the set a pass, as I'm still working on this set of Gulda. Much appreciated your help though!

minpin
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2006-11-18 02:25
[#103] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
CKM

Pls let me say Thank You - firstly, for generously sharing with us your vast knowledge, secondly for writing two long paragraphs, and thirdly for describing each piainst's style so vividly. I can only marvel at your listening experience, observation, and your siccint style of writing too!

Kempff - poteic - yes, especially in the late sonatas, but that said, he may be too well-mannered to bring out the composer's struggle in his late compositions.

Pollini - escalating intensity - can't agree more, but wouldn't it be more suitable to describe the great Michaelangeli, when his Barbican live recording of the op.111 did in fact escalate me? Cold may not be the impression Pollini wanted to give, but unfortunately, this is what his recordings portrait in most cases.

Gilels - powerful tone - and may I also add that the tone is also tied together by his tight and disciplined phrasing too. If Gilel speeds up in "Les Adieux", do try Pletnev's.

Gulda - urgent, exciting - absolutely, and we are not only talking about fast tempo. It is the tension created by the urgency of his playing that holds the music together and created the excitment.

Arrau - thoughtful and heavy, late Klemperer's Beethoven - and I would guess, Klemperer's Pastoral?

Kovacevich - this is perhaps where we diverge, his fingers are very quick, but those are scales he plays. That was when he was still called "Bishop", so maybe he has moved on.

If Zimerman is ever going to record Beethoven sonatas, his will be the ultimate collection with a combination of all of the above. His Op.109 concert over a decade ago was just too special not to make me look forward to him recording the new testament.
minpin
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2006-11-18 03:26
[#104] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
If i have to pick one complete Beethoven set, I would pick Kempff's
wslam
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2006-11-18 03:58
[#105] What are you listening to? ( classical mus    
適合星期六早上聽的小品...

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2006-11-18 09:45
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