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| [#141] 電車吾好用咩? 話咗有問題,連静止狀況都自燃,又無充電,有網友喜做燈蛾,又乜9都費事睇,自己買自己負责,有事唔好怪人,（但港人姓賴）不要唆擺別人買,大陸普遍用緊無辦法,除了盡量坐地鐵 在工業,很多NiCd新電池都爆殼,因首充是用高电压,但電池是空,大電流引致過熱,温度alarm 都响埋,改spec,自動current limit 及加時間制停止充电,點解成日都係我發現及改spec.？唯有間中吞下pok作補償,好聽的是自我獎勵 最後修改時間: 2025-06-07 07:07:47 |
alexanderkoo 正式會員113.xxx.xxx.159 |
2025-06-07 06:51 | |
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| [#142] 電車吾好用咩? 如果 架車係停車場俾隔離部電車自燃燒毀咁究竟搵邊個賠？ 車保保 吾保？ |
Totocrazy 正式會員 83.xxx.xxx.126 |
2025-06-07 12:14 |
| [#143] 電車吾好用咩? 相信有得保,不是自己疏忽,有人拒泊在電車附近,充電不近民居,試過屋都燒埋,地下車庫難救火,高溫影響結構,成2000C 仲講環保？由石油產品產生電力充電,已有損耗,採鋰鑛會破壞環境及用大量的水,打柴後錳及nickel很難回收,要特殊工廠,外國撞花些小就不整,費事有隐憂及保險問題,買過新,產量過剩泊在荒野及碼頭 最後修改時間: 2025-06-08 06:01:08 |
alexanderkoo 正式會員 113.xxx.xxx.159 |
2025-06-08 05:56 |
| [#144] 電車吾好用咩? #142 Claim 對方三保。 |
Dlbf 正式會員 14.xxx.xxx.157 |
2025-06-08 06:59 |
| [#145] 電車吾好用咩? 網上資料：截至2025年4月底，香港電動車數量約為119000輛，佔所有車輛總數約13.1%。 電動私家車佔新登記私家車的比例已增至約7成，增速位處世界前列。 如果 EV 真係咁危險，咁你係愚村見過幾多單？ 如果 EV 真係咁危險，幾千架齊齊燒，架貨船沉咗啦！ 利申：我唔會買 EV。 |
Dlbf 正式會員 14.xxx.xxx.157 |
2025-06-08 07:13 |
| [#146] 電車吾好用咩? 尋日燒左架，可惜唔係 EV。  |
Dlbf 正式會員 14.xxx.xxx.157 |
2025-06-08 07:18 |
| [#147] 電車吾好用咩? https://www.ettoday.net/news/20250605/2973035.htm 恐怖火燒船！貨輪載「800輛電動車」濃煙猛竄天 22人棄船逃生 根據美國海岸警衛隊資訊，「晨光號」5月26日從中國煙台港出發前往墨西哥，行駛到阿拉斯加埃達克島（Adak Island）以南約300英里（約483公里）時發生大火，他們把全部22名船員疏散到另一艘商船上，所幸無人傷亡，但貨輪最終被棄置在太平洋中部海域。 「晨光號」2006年由中國「廈船重工」建造，重達46800噸，並由總部位於倫敦的航運公司Zodiac Maritime負責營運。該公司證實，煙霧首先從停放電動車的甲板竄出，船員們啟動了消防程序，卻依舊無法控制火勢。該公司證實船上貨物包括800輛電動車，但不願透露屬於哪間廠牌。  |
DeepSea^^ 正式會員 222.xxx.xxx.118 |
2025-06-08 12:50 |
| [#148] 電車吾好用咩? https://www.am730.com.hk/%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A%9B/%E8%8D%B7%E8%98%AD%E5%A4%96%E6%B5%B7%E8%B2%A8%E8%88%B9%E8%B5%B7%E7%81%AB1%E6%AD%BB%E5%A4%9A%E5%82%B7-%E8%BC%89%E7%B4%843000%E8%BC%9B%E6%B1%BD%E8%BB%8A350%E8%BC%9B%E5%B9%B3%E6%B2%BB-%E6%9C%89%E7%89%87-/390569 荷蘭外海貨船起火1死多傷 載約3000輛汽車350輛平治 一艘載有近3,000架汽車的貨船在荷蘭外海起火，一名船員死亡，多人受傷。據了解，該艘貨輪上載有350輛平治房車。至於起火原因至今未明，有報道指，事件懷疑是其中一部電動車起火所致。 荷蘭海岸警衛隊周三(26日)證實，巴拿馬籍貨輪「Fremantle Highway」原定由德國前往埃及塞得港，最終目的地為新加坡，但周二(25日)晚間於荷蘭北部Ameland外海起火。船上人員一度試圖救火，荷蘭海岸警衛隊表示一名船員被燒死，另有多人跳船逃生時受傷，當局救起23人。有報道指，貨輪上載有2,857輛汽車，當中包括350輛平治房車，還有25輛電動車。  最後修改時間: 2025-06-08 12:57:37 |
DeepSea^^ 正式會員 222.xxx.xxx.118 |
2025-06-08 12:57 |
| [#149] 電車吾好用咩? 唔瞭解就覺得佢安全,有解釋及案例都無意思,開心使用都是好事,無咁巧自己架車燒 最後修改時間: 2025-06-08 13:35:28 |
alexanderkoo 正式會員 14.xxx.xxx.110 |
2025-06-08 13:33 |
| [#150] 電車吾好用咩? 我只信數字，愚村成12萬架 EV 行緊，麻煩你話俾我知呢十幾年有幾多單自燃？ |
Dlbf 正式會員 124.xxx.xxx.167 |
2025-06-08 13:59 |
| [#151] 電車吾好用咩? 唔講咁遠，今年: 6月6日 黃大仙私家車行駛自焚 司機及時逃生 4月20日 銅鑼灣七人車行駛中自焚 4月11 屯門公路林寶堅尼自焚陷火海 3月17 深水埗 Audi，33都有師兄提過 3月16日 葵涌道私家車「自焚」陷火海 全部唔係 EV。 最後修改時間: 2025-06-08 14:23:52 |
dlbf 正式會員 124.xxx.xxx.167 |
2025-06-08 14:14 |
| [#153] 電車吾好用咩? 自焚的車全部都是運行中，引擎正在轉動中，車齡超過3年；自焚的電車大部份都是停車熄匙，車齡都是零，所以比較就要先定一個標準。 就好似電腦硬碟，所有牌子最容易出事，高風險是個三個月，過了危險期後，大部份都是因為容量細所以淘汰。 |
DeepSea^^ 正式會員 222.xxx.xxx.118 |
2025-06-08 16:27 |
| [#154] 電車吾好用咩? 充電時最大機會過熱,船運中電池也在滿載狀態,在貨櫃中也會過熱,電池組有數千個cells,早期是用18650,死味？後來才出刀片之類,有可能其中一組有毛病而短路,一部車自燃已足以致命,试過有手機及notebook 在太陽長期照射下（非充電）會自焚,買工業電池放了電才運 |
alexanderkoo 正式會員 113.xxx.xxx.158 |
2025-06-08 16:53 |
| [#155] 電車吾好用咩? #153 咁愚村有冇試過？ |
Dlbf 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.102 |
2025-06-08 18:07 |
| [#156] 電車吾好用咩? 。#154 EV 最危險唔係叉電，係有大碰撞，死人都係撞車之後多。 最後修改時間: 2025-06-08 18:16:15 |
Dlbf 正式會員 124.xxx.xxx.167 |
2025-06-08 18:15 |
| [#157] 電車吾好用咩? 船運中電池也在滿載狀態,在貨櫃中也會過 =================== 我退休前做電子廠，用叉電嘅產品出口去歐美以千萬件計，從來唔會叉滿，我唔知車廠點處理，不過段估唔會唔知有風險。 |
Dlbf 正式會員 124.xxx.xxx.167 |
2025-06-08 18:25 |
| [#158] 電車吾好用咩? #150 我都係信數字嘅人。我以前搵過D studies /reports，一路都係講 EV自燃率低過 ICE好多: "Yes, there have been numerous studies and reports globally on EV car self-firing incidents, often focusing on the phenomenon of "thermal runaway" in lithium-ion batteries. Here's a summary of key findings and resources: Overall Risk and Comparison to ICE Vehicles: EV fires are rare: Multiple studies and organizations, including EV FireSafe (funded by the Australian Department of Defence), the International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT), and various fire agencies, consistently report that EVs are less likely to catch fire than internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles. Some reports suggest ICE vehicles are 20-80 times more prone to fires. Increased media attention: While less frequent, EV fires often receive disproportionate media attention, which can skew public perception of their safety. Growing numbers, not higher risk: The absolute number of EV fire incidents has increased with the rapid adoption of EVs, but the frequency relative to the number of EVs on the road remains low. Causes of EV Fires (including "self-firing" or "spontaneous ignition"): While some reports mention "spontaneous ignition," it's important to understand the underlying causes, which are rarely truly spontaneous in a healthy, undamaged battery: Thermal Runaway: This is the primary mechanism for EV battery fires. It's a chemical process where a battery cell short circuits and heats up, causing adjacent cells to fail in a chain reaction. This releases oxygen, fueling the fire. Manufacturing Defects: A notable portion of EV fires (e.g., 9.7% according to EV FireSafe) are linked to defects in battery manufacturing. Recalls of specific models (like the Chevrolet Bolt and Hyundai Kona) have occurred due to such issues. Physical Damage: Collisions and Road Debris Impact: This is a leading cause (around 22.5% of incidents), where impact damages the battery pack. Submersion in Water: Extended submersion, especially in saltwater, can cause internal shorts and lead to fires (e.g., after hurricanes). External Fires: EVs can catch fire if exposed to an external fire, such as a building fire or bushfire that spreads to the vehicle. Arson: Deliberate acts of arson can also cause EV fires. Charging-related (but usually not "spontaneous" from proper charging): While some fires occur while connected to charging (around 15-18% of verified incidents), research suggests that in normally operating, road-registered EVs using compliant charging equipment, it's electrically impossible for the battery to overcharge and catch fire. The majority of charging-connected fires are believed to occur because the EV was previously damaged before being connected to charging, or due to improper charging setups (e.g., using unapproved chargers, extension cords, or building electrical faults). Challenges and Research: Difficult to extinguish: EV battery fires are challenging to extinguish due to thermal runaway and the inaccessibility of the burning battery pack, which can re-ignite without sufficient cooling. They can require significantly more water than ICE vehicle fires. Firefighter safety: Research is ongoing to develop better firefighting tactics and tools for EV fires, as flammable gases released during thermal runaway can pose an explosion risk, especially when using fire blankets that trap these gases. The Fire Protection Research Foundation (FPRF) and The Fire Safety Research Institute (FSRI) are actively conducting research in this area. Data Collection: Obtaining comprehensive, up-to-date global data on EV fires can be challenging as there isn't a single government agency tracking all incidents worldwide. Organizations like EV FireSafe play a crucial role in collating and verifying these incidents. Battery Chemistry Evolution: The industry is shifting towards battery chemistries like lithium iron phosphate (LFP) cathodes, which have higher thermal stability and are less prone to thermal runaway, suggesting a potential reduction in fire risk over time. Key Resources for Global Data and Studies: EV FireSafe (evfiresafe.com): An Australian company funded by the Department of Defence that collates and verifies global EV battery fire incidents. They provide detailed data, including causes and circumstances. International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT): Publishes briefings and reports on EV fire incidents in relation to global EV market share. National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) / Fire Protection Research Foundation (FPRF) (nfpa.org/foundation): Conducts research and provides resources on EV fire safety, particularly for emergency responders. Fire Safety Research Institute (FSRI) (part of UL Research Institutes): Also conducts research on EV battery fires and firefighting tactics. Various national fire agencies: Many countries' fire departments and civil contingencies agencies publish their own statistics and reports (e.g., Sweden, Norway, Fire and Rescue NSW in Australia). Academic research: Numerous academic papers review battery fires in EVs, thermal runaway, and risk assessment frameworks (e.g., studies found on ResearchGate, Open Research Europe). In conclusion, while EV fires do occur and some can be attributed to internal battery issues (often referred to as "self-firing" or "spontaneous ignition" in the media, but usually rooted in defects or damage), they are statistically much less frequent than fires in traditional gasoline or diesel vehicles. Ongoing research aims to further improve EV safety and firefighting techniques." 同意嚴重碰撞後快燒及難熄係 genuine concern。醫學上應否 treat及如何 treat patients經常講 balance the risks and benefits。用唔用電車都係個人揀 balance the risks and benefits。但單以自燃風險來講，暫時我未見過有數據去支持 EV有更大風險呢個講法。 |
ich 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.1 |
2025-06-08 18:57 |
| [#159] 電車吾好用咩? 著火後成功逃生那一個多？活活燒死太殘忍了. 最後修改時間: 2025-06-08 19:05:50 |
Totocrazy 正式會員 83.xxx.xxx.126 |
2025-06-08 19:03 |
| [#160] 電車吾好用咩? 呢點真係唔清楚，唔知有冇相關資料？ 當年 Paul Walker 就係坐係 Porsche GT 燒死。  |
Dlbf 正式會員 124.xxx.xxx.167 |
2025-06-08 19:15 |
