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[#1] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
睇外國 forums 好似唔可以直上,要 custom made 橋 (bracket)。有無人知系咪要搭橋。聽說有人上埋 c63 steering knuckle (合頭 not sure the right name). Anyone has experience to share?

I asked the parts shop they said no, some said yes so ask me to go E55 AMG brake which is direct bolt-on. Just too many answers.
vwcivic515
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2014-06-13 19:22
[#2] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
Why would you want to adopt C63's brakes on your W204? And which W204 model are you using right now
anon99
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2014-06-13 19:49
[#3] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
C63 with 6 pot and 360mm disc, which is much better than w204 non-AMG version. Probably the simply reason to upgrade I believe.

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lamhokai
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2014-06-13 21:15
[#4] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
Mine is c230 with terribly small brake disc 290mm
vwcivic515
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2014-06-13 21:18
[#5] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
Could be that C63's brakes are also a mixture of other models' like the C36 long time ago (S Class brake disc at front, something else at rear)

Instead of thinking of C63's brakes, maybe you should look into other after-tuner's options like those from Brabus or Carlsson

Note that some brakes from high-performance variants may require specific road conditions to be run-in
So you need to find out if C63's ones are indeed of that category, becuz even when installed onto C230 they may not deliver the max potential
anon99
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2014-06-13 22:33
[#6] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
要上,買齊下列原廠 C63 AMG Brake Kit Parts 料:

FRONT:
A2044214798 x1 CALIPER - PARTS KIT, LEFT
A2044214898 x1 CALIPER - PARTS KIT, RIGHT
A0004214765 x2 BLEEDER VALVE - WITH DUST CAP
A0014210991 x2 SPRING
A0004215174 x2 TS BOLTS PARTS KIT
A2214210014 x2 PULL ROD
A0169900601 x2 BOLT
A0044208920 x1 BRAKE LINING/TS DISK BRAKE PAD - PARTS KIT
A0019900814 x4 BOLT - CALIPER TO STEERING KNUCKLE M14x32
A1715400617 x1 BRAKE WEAR SENSOR - BRAKE LINING WEAR INDICATOR
A2194210212 (or A2124210512) x2 BRAKE DISC - FRONT
A2044211320 x1 PROTECTIVE PLATE - LEFT
A2044211420 x1 PROTECTIVE PLATE - RIGHT
A2094280135 x2 BRAKE HOSE - FRONT LEFT AND RIGHT
A2043321901 x1 STEERING KNUCKLE - LEFT
A2043322001 x1 STEERING KNUCKLE - RIGHT
A2043220122 x2 PIVOT PIN
A2119810227 x2 ANGULAR CONTACT BEARING
A2113570508 x2 FLANGE
A1403570572 x2 NUT
A0019904203 x8 BOLT - BEARING AT STEERING KNUCKLE
A2113331114 x2 BEARING - STRUT
A2043304911 x1 CROSS STRUT - LEFT
A2043304911 x1 CROSS STRUT - RIGHT
A2045401817 x2 SENSOR - RPM SENSOR, FRONT

REAR:
A2044234198 x1 CALIPER - PARTS SET, LEFT
A2044234298 x1 CALIPER - PARTS SET, RIGHT
A0014210791 x2 SPRING
A0004214274 x2 PIN - PARTS KIT
A0189900001 x4 BOLT - CALIPER TO WHEEL BEARING
A0054202520 x BRAKE LINING/TS DISK BRAKE PAD - PARTS KIT
A1715400617 x1 BRAKE WEAR SENSON - BRAKE LINE WEAR INDICATOR
A2044230412 x2 BRAKE DISC - REAR
humber
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2014-06-13 22:47
[#7] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
I also read that post from other forum but that will be way way too expensive to buy all these parts and doesn't make sense to me (just bcos I am not rich). Just the steering knuckle few thousands each.
vwcivic515
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2014-06-14 12:40
[#8] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
師兄部車唔好收咩?
原裝車冇改,Brake 應該夠?
paulpoon168
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2014-06-14 14:30
[#9] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
樓主又話冇咩$,典解都貢掉$落海鴉。。。
Somonica
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2014-06-14 15:47
[#10] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
Not quite. The stock setup is weird. The front brake disc is even smaller than rear disc (all original from MB). Running slowly in HK is fine but want to improve a bit on the safety. I would say not a must but better one.

Called up another shop they just it can be "direct bolt-on". Haha. It is getting fun, a simple thing that could go many diff answer.
vwcivic515
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2014-06-14 15:53
[#11] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
Better ask a C Fu who is working at Zung Fu - privately.
paulpoon168
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2014-06-14 17:28
[#12] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
個人經驗中,其實Benz同BMW既原裝brake,純粹制動性能上黎講一定足夠行街甚至飛街,當然為outlook就無得講

咁大間廠唔會走去慳呢D,原廠一早計好晒數,另外前後制動力分配以至traction conreol既運作模式亦係以原裝為依歸,亂咁去改大頭brake只會改變左原廠既brake balance setting,甚至影響埋traction control既運作方式,有突發野時其實仲危險左

何況如果只係個brake勁左,但呔無跟住upgrade都係無用架喎,個brake剎得住但條呔又grip唔grip到先?勁brake配雞呔其實仲危險過雞brake雞呔

唔放心既,最多換套brake pad(前後同一型號),換套好呔就乜都夠

當然,主要係為個樣的話,就當我無講過啦
Enzo
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2014-06-14 19:53
[#13] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
唔係撥樓主冷水

呢度師兄已經講咗唔值得攪, 為外觀冇計

c230得過204匹,原廠已經好好收,就算amg pack加大cliper (好似4 pot)
同埋前轆用通風碟, 性能同冇amg pack分別不大

升amg cliper同碟全部換過, 又要計轆offset, 重做定四輪定位, 避震.....一大輪野

一攪唔得了, 錢又用多咗, 效果又唔係咁顯著

建議玩性能, 不如宜家直接買架c63, 2008年都唔駛50個, 原廠全部tune好哂

最重要係c63個頭冚同沙版唔同普通版長度唔同, 外觀改唔到的

唔啱聽唔好打頭
黎初九
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2014-06-14 20:09
[#14] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
同意。
唔明好多人,買架lancer 又改左改右扮Evolution, 揸325又扮M3.
識小小嘢嘅見到都笑到Par 街。二手放又唔見一大筆。
不如儲多小小,買部二手堅嘢啦,又有性能又有外型,放出去又易D,又唔使跌咁多。

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paulpoon168
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2014-06-14 20:54
[#15] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
I think we do always discuss about "buy another car in higher model" vs "modify exiting car". There is no clear answer.

I do agree that sometimes it is better to change the car is easier.

In my case, indeed c230 itself is under power even though I got the ECU chipped from euro charge already. Changed the advan 19" rim with pss. So the outlook is one concern (imagine 290mm disc in 19" rim), for braking force I think the stock one just "bare enough" and cannot go aggressive for late brake. I would say street use ok, sport drive bare enough but a bit dangerous

Getting c63? May be a good choice but they don't have M/T and not my cup is tea (my w204 is MT). So if change can only be 4-dr M3 MT (e90 series) but quite rare, most MT is coupe.
vwcivic515
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2014-06-15 13:08
[#16] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
只想講多一樣野:

冇記錯你架c230好似係2008年

恕我直言, 你攪咁多野, 好大機會下年過唔到驗車

尤其係你個brake, 唔係原裝, 搭橋與否都易瀨野

到時先黎改番原裝, 會唔會玩自己先?

改ecu, 無論外卦定hack唔hack入電腦, 都只係整形

套用big 6人個句, 呢D叫折騰. 值唔值得因人而異, 就好似電腦超頻咁

但對我而言, 架車冇咁大個頭就冇好戴咁大頂帽, 如果唔係德國佬唔駛玩grading啦

玩車玩到走火入魔, 唔怪得D人玩車大嗌玩到窮, 乜Q都改, 益咗邊個先, 加上拆野既手工已經唔係好

冇野搵野黎改, 變咗病態. 隔離discuss有人話架520i改避震, 改到要鋸車尾箱個膠兜去就, 痴q線
黎初九
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2014-06-15 17:10
[#17] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
>...... 就好似電腦超頻咁

哈哈!
skyliner
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2014-06-15 17:30
[#18] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
Thanks for comment. I think we go quite off topic. When I was 20 I started my first car and the modifications comes in very car I had. I think modification is a personal preference and it is no right or wrong. Supercar ppl still modify, not becos it is not strong enough. I hate going to discus the comment ... Why you need that power in HK while u drive Nathan road everyday or you cannot maximize it why bother to modify it. I think u know what I mean.

For the yearly exam, I got all modification which will pass. Ecu remap no way to tell as it is not piggy back box. Rim and tire no concern. Suspension I got b8 and h&r, no issue for exam as well. Yes, brake is a concern that is why I ask in this post about "direct bolt-on", if it is no custom bracket then exam will pass as well

Going very far though, anyone has idea my initial question? (I know ppl have its own pt of view, but it is not always right applying to others. When I get my first 911 in the future I will change my mind not to bother to do any of these, but it doesn't mean that time the youngsters playing around their golf is stupid.
vwcivic515
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2014-06-15 18:21
[#19] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
Yes, just like people who don't love car won't understand why people drive super car here, a waste of the car, haha

My comment was just to suggest if you buy a car which can satisfy your need that it may save some money. But if you need a 4 Dr MT then you really have not much choice.

paulpoon168
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2014-06-15 18:54
[#20] MB w204 上 c63 brake    
鴉!禾歌部前柒夠係肆門棍波鴉。 重要又舊咪數又超膠又用硬膠長命呔。 正常康打尐原廠迫力就更係算把鴉。。。

樓主試下揸得正常尐,唔洗想太多。。。♡
Somonica
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2014-06-16 04:20
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