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[#31] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
Have you mixed up the prices of the 2??
Forged wheels're supposed to be stronger, lighter and hence more expensive


hellow
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[#32] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
Hi hellow, I also have same understand that Forged wheel should be better, but from the price, don't know why ...

ff4300
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2011-06-01 13:49
[#33] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
probably typo, forged wheel should have cost much more than common casted wheel.
Forged wheel upgrade for 2.8 only but not for the more performance oriented 3.0T just doesn't look right...
Better ask and check how much does the forged one weigh c/o with the casted wheel. Genuine forged wheel should be much lighter than its casted counterpart
hellow
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2011-06-01 22:37
[#34] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
I have booked test drive tomorrow, will report the ride with you later.

ff4300
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2011-06-01 23:22
[#35] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
I've just got a a4, the performance is not bad but cannot compare with BMW straight 6 cylinder. The steering wheel is too firm even more than a Porsche. The worst is the seat comfort, my right leg tight muscle badly pain after a short drive. It is a very strange positioning for the gas pedal. I hope it won't happen on a6. But the equipment is quite comprehensive, the build quality is quite good and better than a benz c class.
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2011-06-01 23:38
[#36] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
ff4300, just a reminder, there will be an almost half a second lag when you accelerate from a complete stop with the Multitronic gearbox(CVT)..see if it's acceptable to you. Also check if the "lag" goes away when you dial in the SPORT MODE. That's pretty much why most prefer the DSG/S-Tronic apart from performance advantage. The dealer is smart and tend to couple the DSG/S-Tronic with Quattro, so one have to pay much more if he has to avoid the CVT.

By the way, Audi steering tends to be feather light with no feedback in recent years so to speak. The Servotronic is way overboosted. BMW & MB also have lighter steering generation after generation.(BMW new 5 even have a full electronic steering system). But at least somehow double B still manage to give you some "pseudo" steering feedback even at slow speed. Audi used to be a sensible choice years ago when they are almost selling at a bargain c/o double B while their finishing was regarded almost as the benchmark among the 3 German marques back then. There are clear signs of cost cutting for the Audi in the past couple of years. On the contrary in view of the challenge posed by Audi, there seems to be a "come-back" by the double B in the way their interior is built, choice of material used, price structured....
So if after adding all the options you have to add to the base A6 2.8"SE" to make it more livable,you find yourself paying much more than the 500k mark, better test drive 5 & e before making the final decision

As for the straight 6 engine(even one not made by BMW), they tends to run smoother than a V6. People tends to have the misconception that any V engine should be silky smooth. That actually only applies to V8 or V12 which have even no of cylinders on each side of the V configuration(4 & 6 for V8 & V12). V6 with an odd number of cylinders on each side actually has more intrinsic vibration than a straight 6 arrangment. For the car manufacturer the advantages of V6 over Straight 6 are taking up less space and cheaper to build & that's it


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hellow
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2011-06-02 02:20
[#37] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
Hellow C Hing, sorry to interrupt you, but most of the so called "FACTS" that you mentioned here are basically incorrect :)
simcity
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2011-06-02 20:04
[#38] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
Feel free to correct me then
I used to be an Audi fan many moons ago(when most HKer just named it as the Olympic/4 ring brand) and have had 3 different Audi in my family before switching camp

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hellow
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2011-06-02 20:30
[#39] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
OK, no offense here Hellow C Hing :)

Point NO.1

You wrote........

"The dealer is smart and tend to couple the DSG/S-Tronic with Quattro, so one have to pay much more if he has to avoid the CVT."

The truth is.......

"At present, in an engineering point of view, Audi could only produce a front wheel drive A6 either equipped with the traditional automatic gearbox using the torque converter or the Multitronic CVT gearbox. So it's not a trick used by the dealer to cheat money from potential buyers when the only option for the DSG gearbox is the Quattro drive-train. And it's totally unrelated to whether the dealer is smart of not. It's just not feasible mechanically."

Am I correct?

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simcity
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2011-06-02 22:50
[#40] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
I 'm wrong with this point then. It should be Audi the manufacturer of the car that fail to provide a non-CVT FF A6 without the Quattro.

My last Audi was the C6 A6 FF(multitronic/CVT) 2.8. At that time I also test drove the Quattro version with tiptronic. Strange enough the Quattro feel much less agile at turns(most likely the added weight from the Quattro) In the end i picked the FF with no awareness of the famous CVT's sluggish start from stand-still(and it's ~30k cheaper). After getting the car, I started noticed the sluggish start from the CVT. Yes i should have notice this at the test drive but somehow I missed it X(. Ask the service centre and of course i was told it was normal for the multitronic...
hellow
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2011-06-03 00:17
[#41] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
Finally placed the order to get the A6 2.8 Multitronic .... said to be delivered in Sep/Oct 2011.

Good car but not as dynamic as expected. Reason to get it are value and spacious interior, very comfort and stable ride.

The "audi drive select" do help on throttle response. But don't expect it have huge different.

Noise isolation is so so.

Yes, sluggish start but acceptable. CVT gear change is smooth.

A6 is a big car but drive feeling is not that big.

Not much color to choose, so boring. Get the "Oolong Grey, metallic" color with black interior.



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ff4300
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2011-06-03 01:37
[#42] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
Congratulations ff4300 C Hing!! My friend also chose the Oolong Grey with black interior!!

Still haven't driven the new A6 yet but driving the A7 sometime ago gave me the exact impression you've described. And it's way better than the last generation A6. As you have said, the new A6 is a "Good car but not as dynamic as expected. Reason to get it are value and spacious interior, very comfort and stable ride." So that's exactly what I am thinking too. It's great value at this price and that's all we need as a middle class luxury executive sedan. Nothing less and nothing more.

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2011-06-03 03:04
[#43] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
Another interesting car, the Jaguar XF

Congrats to ff4300 hing too! Very good price indeed. Not much to say! Good Choice! The tyre rim look very stylish too! I think the BMW should learn.



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jaxx
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2011-06-03 13:08
[#44] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
I think it is the most sexious car among the BMW5 and Benz E, Audi A6.

jaxx
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2011-06-03 13:10
[#45] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
Except the interior, a bit old style. It needs more dynamic to match the exterior design. Anyone know why Jaguar is not so popular in HK or even in Europe. Is it a reliable quality car?

This facelit XF have a 3.0 petrol. I guess it will be seold approx 600-700K. In EU, they have 2.2 disel. The price is similar to a BMW325 there. I don't think HK government will let it exist in here. What is shame!

jaxx
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2011-06-03 13:17
[#46] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
The A6 is to target the execuitve businese car market, hence head/leg rooms and quietness are the most important factors. A V6 engine fitted is also for smooth delivery of power.
The A3, A5 and A7's are for dynamic delivery sporting vehicles.
Jaguar XF is lovely but it is a sporting car, also it is not reliable, repair bill is expensive, hence running cost is very high, second hand value is low!
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2011-06-03 18:49
[#47] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
I just compared the pricing of the current S4 and the new A6 - both have the same engine, but the S4 is tuned to produce 33hp more (333 vs 300). The S4 comes with B&O sound system, the "S- package" - trims and sports suspension, higher spec (18") wheels and tyres... and is around HK$20k cheaper.

On the other hand, the A6 3.0 offers Audi Drive Select, Start/Stop system and better MMI and a smaller carbon foot print for the same engine.

So, which one is better value ?

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2011-06-05 01:53
[#48] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
fkclo, S4 should have higher 2nd-hand value then A6.

I will get a S4 if I can spend 750k for a car.
ff4300
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2011-06-06 01:40
[#49] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
S4 & a6 are two different cars. A6 is a comfortable executive car. S4 is more like a sport car. Depends on your needs!

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jaxx
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2011-06-06 21:52
[#50] 本星期六、日 Audi A6 車展 (5月28及29日)    
Try the Jaguar XF 3.0 last Sunday.

Good handling because of FR. But steering not as sharp as BMW, a little bit soft/relaxing. But more natural then Audi A6.

Very good outlook. For the price of HK$508k, it come with 18" wheel, touch screen console...

Interior a little bit old fashion but quality slightly better then Audi A6.... especially the leather seat, soft and comfortable.

Since it is sport style as A5, headroom is not as good as Audi A6, but no problem for man with 5'10" tall.

Audi 2.8 engine + multitronic gear box have better acceleration feeling than Jaguar XF 3.0 + 6 speed gear box, especially during 60mph - 80mph.... Jaguar XF feel slow..

Noise isolation is better than A6.



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