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[#1] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 果日落大兩,朋友心急想試兩部二手車,C仔W203同埋3系E46,係私人放既. 幫佢手試部C仔,燈位上斜起步竟然打滑,個車主話落住雨比大小小油係會咁,其實我只係比正常大腳咗少少,佢話如果後座坐多啲人就好少少。 唔係嘛,唔通南非造真係差D,跟住我落車睇,條tire係普通嘢但又不至於雞tire,仲好新吓. 跟住試埋部E46,都係普通tire,仲大雨,但係完全冇事. E46德國造,唔到你唔信! 最後修改時間: 2012-05-23 16:40:56 |
kit281170 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.63 |
2012-05-23 16:38 | |
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[#2] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 最後? |
周芬芬 正式會員 110.xxx.xxx.138 |
2012-05-23 16:52 |
[#3] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 低扭大都會濕地起步打滑,ching可否詳盡少少,兩架都有興趣。 |
少理吧吧 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.43 |
2012-05-23 16:55 |
[#4] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 Both will "打滑" if ESP and DSC are off, and both will not 打滑 if ESP and DSC are on, |
mcc_2001 正式會員 165.xxx.xxx.150 |
2012-05-23 17:28 |
[#5] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 3仔乜唔係要coupe先係made in德國? |
dlbc 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.169 |
2012-05-23 18:02 |
[#6] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 benz係04年C230,bmw係02年325i,其實我同個friend都傾向鐘意benz多啲既,但估唔到會咁,我又冇留意佢有冇開ESP喎,但係連車主自己都咁講,佢都好老實. 不過我揸果時係感覺到架車重心喺車頭多啲,而bmw個重心就平均啲,最後個friend唔信且,話要再試多部.(到時唔一定落雨喎大佬) 我覺得就算冇ESP之類既野都唔應該打滑丫. 唸唸吓自己架老殘E系落緊雨果時起步上斜後轆都會有小小典典下先去.(比較大油小小就會) |
kit281170 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.34 |
2012-05-23 18:49 |
[#7] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 >>>我覺得就算冇ESP之類既野都唔應該打滑丫. 會,我架w204同我以前架w203都會,不過ESP會介入,好車黎架,代表扭力大嘛,不過要試一下ESP著唔著,我架204係德國造,203就南非,一樣打滑,一樣著ESP,所以唔關邊度造,最緊要試清楚ESP靈唔靈。我兒子架328i都一樣,但佢個DSC一關上就真係off哂,而benz就不會,ESP關上,衹是進入ESP stage 2,好似話安全比操控優先喎。 最後修改時間: 2012-05-23 19:46:24 |
mcc_2001 正式會員 42.xxx.xxx.39 |
2012-05-23 19:44 |
[#8] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 我部500HP AMG, 好天大油一樣打滑啦。十年前部18?HP E Class 就想佢響呔都難 |
jacky35 正式會員 123.xxx.xxx.158 |
2012-05-23 19:45 |
[#9] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 500HP 嗰D叫burn tyre...我地D270HP叫滑一滑啦...哈哈。 |
mcc_2001 正式會員 42.xxx.xxx.39 |
2012-05-23 20:12 |
[#10] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 小弟反而考慮緊E46尾期325i好, 定IS200/300好? |
SonusMaster 正式會員 113.xxx.xxx.128 |
2012-05-23 20:18 |
[#11] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 原裝設定黎講BMW操控上係好過Benz,但靠起步輪胎打滑與否黎判斷架車操控好唔好…我真係唔知講乜好 起步要打滑可以有好多原因,例如輪胎睇落新唔代表膠質仲係得,何況唔同廠既Traction control作動效果都唔一定一樣,有D係會容許你有一定既打滑,何況traction control只係限制人為既錯誤動作,一般正常駕駛情況下你個人控制得到的話佢根本唔會著,因為你控制自己隻手同腳咪係traction control囉,同架車本身既操控無關,如果你連起步都要靠traction control幫助先可以正常起步的話…勸你都係唔好開大cc車喇,電子野唔係萬能架! |
Enzo 正式會員 42.xxx.xxx.59 |
2012-05-23 21:08 |
[#12] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 Enzo Hing, my mouth was "O" after reading the C Hing's comment based on traction control at start. |
jacky35 正式會員 123.xxx.xxx.88 |
2012-05-23 21:21 |
[#13] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 >>>靠起步輪胎打滑與否黎判斷架車操控好唔好 Enzo & jacky35 hing,算我見識少,揸過既尾轆車真係唔多,唔知係咪架架尾轆車都係咁,雨天要輕小小油起步呢. 果日架benz只係比大小小油就打滑,而且有輕微擺一擺,唔影響操控嗎?架E46起步似乎係平穩好多. 最後修改時間: 2012-05-23 22:58:36 |
kit281170 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.34 |
2012-05-23 22:39 |
[#14] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 我兩部都擁有過, 我好疑心你試個兩部都有問題 尤其係w203, 雖然冇力, 但不至於打滑, 我個部就算落雨一咁都去, 當然個感覺冇得同e46比 w203個esp係有得全off, 要借軚盤個制入dyno mode w203同e46係南非做. w203第一批係德國做, 但好少量 仲有, 要買w203一定買尾期, 2004/5月後; e46, 02年後就冇問題 最後修改時間: 2012-05-23 23:06:40 |
黎初九 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.33 |
2012-05-23 23:01 |
[#15] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 kit hing, the traction control is not 100% related to what you called 操控. I got the same issue when I drove my 500HP AMG (SL-55) for the first few months. I changed to higher grip tyres and the problem was gone. I think 操控 is more related to what you feel during driving, cornering at higher speed etc, not just at start/acceleration. By the way, just talked to a BMW salesman and he said that nearly all 3 series were made in South Africa, while a small qty when a new 3 series was born, were made in Germany in general. Similar things happened for M Benz. All 5 series are made in Germany. |
jacky35 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.213 |
2012-05-23 23:21 |
[#16] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 唔關頭轆定尾轆車事,何況重心轉移問題,起步黎講理論上尾轆定過頭轆添,同埋係車於雨天操作油門時動作都要更輕柔架啦 不過理論上細動力既車通常都係頭轆,中至大動力多數都係尾轆,所以你有咁既錯覺都唔奇;又或者你之前既頭轆車都有打滑,只不過頭轆負責埋轉向,起步就算打滑都唔會走黎走去,所以可能少少打滑你唔多覺,但尾轆打滑車尾會擺,所以你容易察覺 單就起步果下黎講,會打滑只有幾個原因:引擎動力過大、輪胎抓地力不足…我之前都講過,輪胎睇落新/有紋唔代表膠質仲係得,膠質硬化的話就算有紋/睇落好新雨天都好明顯抓地力不足,至於引擎動力…除非你試四五百匹以上既車,否則普通地步一個有正常操控能力既駕駛者就算有輕微打滑都無可能起步起到可以擺一擺… 如果照你既理論「起步打滑等於操控唔好」的話,咁所有細馬力既車仔咪全部都好操控?所有大扭力既房車/大馬力既跑車都唔好操控? 所以雖然唔知你試既係乜型號,但斷估唔係C63 AMG掛?單憑你所比既資料黎判斷,你所遇到既情況只有兩個可能:一、你試果架車輪胎膠質已經完全硬化;二、請恕我直言,你隻腳有問題… |
Enzo 正式會員 42.xxx.xxx.59 |
2012-05-23 23:23 |
[#17] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 w203 c230得192hp, 仲係fr, 我唔知你想買個架係行大charge v6 (2500cc), 定係細charge i4+kompressor (1800cc) 但如果打滑, 我諗你決定買都check下個軸, 同佢副esp腦. 我既愚見就係搵個架. 個市有唔係冇 |
黎初九 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.33 |
2012-05-23 23:31 |
[#18] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 初九兄,咁可能果架benz係有問題,個朋友話試多架唔對路就唔諗喇,忍心轉投E46. 最後修改時間: 2012-05-23 23:55:56 |
kit281170 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.34 |
2012-05-23 23:46 |
[#19] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 兩者係未都係2波起步呀? |
h9713325 正式會員 118.xxx.xxx.124 |
2012-05-23 23:48 |
[#20] 冇得傾, C仔操控比起3系差少少 咁新既車, 落雨天起油打滑, 建議CHECK下條呔同埋呔氣先.....CHECK睇, 除左睇牌子之外, 你可以睇埋年份 就咁話C仔操控比唔少3系, 講唔過去 |
jcmbz 正式會員 123.xxx.xxx.53 |
2012-05-23 23:52 |