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[#1] Audi TFSI vs V6    
小弟揸緊 Galant VRM (V6) 馬力 200 匹 扭力 220Nm
將來想買Audi A4 / A5 1.8, 扭力320Nm (year 2011 or after), 但馬力只有 170匹

雖然扭力大了 (起步快D?), 但馬力細了,又是直四, 會不會返而比Galant 差左? 馬力細是否加速慢左?

如買2010或之前(扭力只有250Nm 馬力只有160匹), 又如何?

V6 是否始終動力澎湃D,源源不絕 D?
怕 直四Turbo 起步有力,但後期加速慢.

請指教.

A4/5 owners:
多唔多問題?
維修有幾貴?有無大獲嘢, 如波箱, Turbo...
2.0 與 1.8 分別大嗎?
Quattro 與無Quattro分別大嗎?


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shiu9481
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2013-01-01 14:44
[#2] Audi TFSI vs V6    
有冇比較埋車重?
dlbc
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2013-01-01 16:40
[#3] Audi TFSI vs V6    
日本車同歐洲匹數計算方法有啲唔同, 170匹未必比200匹無力...
*DIY*
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[#4] Audi TFSI vs V6    
My previous test driver report for your reference.

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Audi A5 Sportback 1.8 TFSI Multitronic

由於甘岩係尖東有時間﹐今日去左Audi Kowloon打個轉﹐想望下部A5 Sportback同Q3。其實部sportback真係有D似我而家部Mazda 6﹐揭開背箱﹐睇甘多部車最接近mazda 6﹐唯獨係無部6甘闊落﹐窄身少少。問下sales哥哥有無1.8TFSI試﹐點知即刻有﹐就哪哪霖渣一轉。

Spec:1798 cc TFSI 170hp@3800-6200, 320NM@1400-37008 spds Multitronic

試車路線﹕
漆咸道南->公主道->窩打老道->歌和老街->筆架山道->窩打老道->公主道->梳士巴利道->漆咸道南

路試﹕
上了車較好位後,Sales哥哥講解一下部車D functions﹐著引擎後﹐部車都幾靜。晚車開車塘電呔好輕﹐單手卒呔輕易駛出馬路。就係第一個燈位停車﹐stop/start系統介入。綠燈時﹐隻腳未放晒brake時個engine都著返﹐個系統都算快。但係相對F10黎講﹐個人覺得F10做得快D順暢D﹐A5果套起步相對比較慢左少少。過左兩個街口﹐有少少發覺部車靜止加速時頭段頗慢﹐有D似用3波起步果種feel﹐到turbo介入後就個torque一層層黎料﹐塘呔亦都隨即加重。心諗﹐咦﹐有D似XC60果隻感覺窩﹐不過無甘嚴重﹐起碼著turbo快過XC60。沿住公主道窩打老道一路行﹐部車其實幾好渣﹐一路加速cut 線亦都反應好好。去到筆加山道上斜見無乜車﹐就特登踩停部車再放開brake﹐跟住踩深油門加速﹐咦?部車無反應既?差不多係一秒後部車先肯開車(3波起步果種feel又返黎)。問下sales哥哥知唔知做乜?佢個解釋係因為我踩停部車又突然加速﹐部車既保護波箱系統介入﹐所以先係甘。就算我信你講個解釋﹐甘係上斜遇著塞車咪好大鑊?我傾向覺得保護波箱系統就吹水多﹐反而係Multitronic波箱個設定未必適合呢種突然停下踩油又停下踩油情況。起碼﹐我係F10 520無遇到呢個問題。除此之外﹐其實個CVT波箱都好順滑﹐manual paddle shift上上落落都好快及順暢。部車入灣亦都好好﹐渣得aggressive 少少時個dynamic suspension都跟得上﹐入灣俾到我信心﹐中段加速亦都好好﹐香港渣無問題。返到Audi門口係天文台道parallel parking﹐單手搞掂﹐慢車呔輕真係好駛好用。

舒適度﹕由於今次mrs 無帶車牌﹐成程得我渣﹐無得感受下做後座乘客。部車既stop/start系統停車後﹐engine熄左部車仲有電供應俾全車及冷氣﹐唯一就係個冷氣淨係出風﹐製冷暫停。但當停車時若車內氣溫升高(或人手調低溫度)﹐部車係會自動著返等冷氣運作。這個同BMW F10系統唔同。到放開個brake時﹐部車撻著﹐感覺無F10甘refine﹐有種相對比較粗糙既感覺。其實係加速時﹐亦都感覺部EA888引擎比較粗﹐無F10 520甘輕鬆。整體上﹐mrs話後坐左右兩邊legroom OK﹐係中坐唔多舒服。行車時其實幾好﹐風聲車聲都唔多入車﹐唯一係無mazda 6甘闊落。一路巡航時唔覺避震好硬﹐到入灣時又唔覺好霖﹐個dynamic suspension做得唔錯。仲有﹐1.8TFSI 呢個version係無駕駛席seat memory﹐俾錢加option都無﹐要上2.0先有﹐頂﹐甘瘸呢既?對我就超唔方便。

總結﹕
A5 1.8TFSI係一部capable既車﹐撇開上斜加速果個問題﹐部車屬於好渣。除去環保稅優惠叫價424800都算合理。起碼﹐我覺得抵過部Mark X。不過今年quota賣晒﹐要訂車MY13至下年三月先有車交。
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[#5] Audi TFSI vs V6    
thanks for the detailed report :)
shiu9481
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2013-01-02 10:03
[#6] Audi TFSI vs V6    
>甘係上斜遇著塞車咪好大鑊?

agree!

even worse when you need to turn at the same time.
:-r
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2013-01-02 10:46
[#7] Audi TFSI vs V6    
i drive a mulitronic 2.0, it took me a month to get use to the respond, now I love it very much. its super smooth during daily driving but if you stick it in S it become very sporty.

The only issue with mulitronic.....is....its known to be not reliable, but which CVT is..??
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2013-01-03 11:06
[#8] Audi TFSI vs V6    
Multitronics should be better as it is using chain rather than belt
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2013-01-03 12:09
[#9] Audi TFSI vs V6    
我終於試咗...如 "我是一個人" 說:
"有少少發覺部車靜止加速時頭段頗慢﹐有D似用3波起步果種feel﹐到turbo介入後就個torque一層層黎料"

好唔慣...V6動力較平穩向上

避震不舒服

shiu9481
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2013-01-08 23:13
[#10] Audi TFSI vs V6    
V6 引擎平滑線性就一定了,LPT要做到咁好難,要重新習慣。
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2013-01-08 23:23
[#11] Audi TFSI vs V6    
"有少少發覺部車靜止加速時頭段頗慢﹐有D似用3波起步果種feel﹐到turbo介入後就個torque一層層黎料"

its the feel, if you look at your speed, its not 3rd gear pick up speed, you will get use to it after a few weeks.

if you can't accept this feel then dont' consdier Audi.

好唔慣...V6動力較平穩向上

do not compare 4 with 6.

V6 always give you better feel, but it may not be better in performance.


避震不舒服

避震 want 舒服, buy Mercedes. better handling usually = less comfort. audi is 避震不舒服, i hated it too but when you drive it fast you feel there is somethign good about it afterall.


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[#12] Audi TFSI vs V6    
seanbeer/我是一個人:
do you know if 2.0's S-tronic is better? How will the feeling different from Multitronic

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2013-01-10 22:05
[#13] Audi TFSI vs V6    
Not sure but the new Audis with s tronic should be a DSG gearbox

Let's hear other c Hing
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2013-01-10 23:15
[#14] Audi TFSI vs V6    
http://www.audi.co.uk/audi-innovation/our-technologies/transmissions.html

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2013-01-10 23:18
[#15] Audi TFSI vs V6    
shiu9481 hing, sorry I didn't try 2.0TFSI, so I can't comment on the performance. However, as far as I know, all MY13 Audi A5 2.0 are Quattro, i.e., the s-tronic is the Audi DL501 7 speeds DSG (Wet Type) which, it is supposed to handle up to 550Nm torque (plenty enough). By all means, the Wet type DSG reliability is much better than the Dry one (especially the cost saving VW 7 speeds dry version DQ200). And, by all means, it is a DSG so the gearbox performance should be far better than the CVT Multitronic. Personally, if I were you, I will get the 2.0 rather than 1.8.

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[#16] Audi TFSI vs V6    
同意#15 所講。dsg 起圍點都會比multitronic 快和爽,如果你較著重起步反應,dsg 係不二之選。
我揸A4 v6 3.2q. fuel consumption appox. 12l/100k. 65%urban, 35%hwy
Btw, no complain, nice car!
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