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[#21] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
Is the engine different from the last series?
cmahui
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2013-05-19 13:35
[#22] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
@cmahui
"Last series" - you mean second incarnation (前中期/中期)?

AFAIK, only the 1.8 is replaced by the 2.0 with two tunning config (184ps/211ps), and the E63 gets the S treatment tuning (up to 585)
anon99
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2013-05-19 14:07
[#23] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
Thanks Anon99
cmahui
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2013-05-19 15:26
[#24] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
I saw it in the show.
No surprise. Even more expensive.
I think no facelift is better....
Just change for a change
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2013-05-22 00:02
[#25] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
As an owner of several generations of MB E-class including the current generation, my personal view is that the facelift model looks very stylish in real, totally modern and extremely seductive. Many of my friends have already put down deposit for it. Great value for the money!!

I'll definite buy one too if not having bought the pre facelifted model :)



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simcity
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2013-05-22 12:53
[#26] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
Sorry simcity but I must profusely disagree.

Besides yours is already a 前中期/中期 facelift

Also, jumping on the bandwagon just to maintain certain status, is not a good thing

"Great value for the money!??" Yeah right, for a barebones vehicle...
Just look at the options list and get the truth

@mcclane05
More expensive... and NO headlamp washer anymore?
Very ironic so to speak

The only reason IMO to try the faceflited E is to experience the new 2L turbo on the E250/200...
Or, to try out the optional all-round monitor/parking camera......

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anon99
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2013-05-23 11:14
[#27] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
simcity hing, how does it compare with the BMW 5 in term of driving?

I like the outlook of the E class, but the interior especially the new clock which is a bit grand daddy. I am waiting to see the coming convertible model.
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2013-05-23 11:30
[#28] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    

anon99 C Hing, actually the E-class is one of the best executive sedan on the market, and that's true for every generation (past, present and the future). It's the bread and butter for Mercedes Benz and they will not and could not allow any error out of this particular model. The fact is they could only make it more and more desirable with each new generation and facelift model. Of course it will not suit everyone's taste, but the sales figure alone tells you everything. Over "one hundred" E-class have been sold on the 2 days' car show last week and the waiting list is now the end of this year :)

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simcity
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2013-05-23 21:13
[#29] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
@simcity
I don't mean to bash the E and in fact I know people close to me who've had good life with past gen models...

But not everybody agrees on the revised front grille (esp. AV sport design) sans headlamp washer, it remains to be seen how the mass crowd would critique it in the long run

I do nevertheless know people out there who often use the E -- even a barebone-spec "shell" -- as an excuse to show off some wealth and status which is what I really dislike and don't want to see...

An economical E? Oxymoron to me!! If I were to get one, I would need that to be very well equipped. If I couldn't afford that, or if I found the total way off my intended budget, I'd simply let it go and find something else......

BTW how did you know 100+ Es have been sold last week? You're an insider, or some insider fed you info?

Sales figures don't always tell the whole story but merely indicate how cunning the ZF sales are in securing sales contracts to a maximum level -- using whatever means possible. It's like a report card or something... to show off a company's teamwork. For instance, how effectual they are, how scary they are,......

But how about after-sales CS?? Honestly, among the past E owners, how many have had all-positive experience? Not all of them I'm sure, and for those who indeed got lemons, do you think a sales would be able to retain them so that their next vehicle will be another MB??
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2013-05-23 21:54
[#30] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
annon99, while you can keep disagreeing profusely, the sales figure around the world speaks volume

whether one likes it or not, successful businesses dont give a flying squat about some minority dissenting views

the e is one of the best handling executive sedans around, at very very reasonable price. one can see that there are almost as many e on the road as taxis. It does not need an analyst to confirm how popular the e is. it is selling like hot cakes

for someone looking for a well equipped cars at bargain price, get a Kia


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mahimahi
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2013-05-23 22:02
[#31] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
I think BMW 5 series is the most reasonable executive sedan
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2013-05-23 22:19
[#32] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
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anon99
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[#33] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
@hkb2046
How, and in what ways?

That said, I still have to agree the 5尻 is more "reasonable" in terms of design and feature sets...

Not to mention the standard floor shifts (w/paddle shift) in its entire HKDM range, as well as rear vented disc brake

If however the E saloon/estate has floor shifts and standard rear camera, then it may be another story......
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2013-05-24 02:56
[#34] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
@mahimahi
> for someone looking for a well equipped cars at bargain price, get a Kia

Or 現代Genesis... right?? Although, it's N/A in HK for not having RHD

So no I'm not venting my anger on the revised grill. Some like it and some don't, and it's up to the outside masses to decide

And yes I too would settle with a good E, but only if I deemed it satisfactory after testing, and that I got dealt with a good and reaasonable sales... without priors, that is

Nah, never mind... I'll just save my breath (you never like my views anyway and always stand by sim-c)
anon99
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[#35] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
i really would like to show off my wealth with a brand new e-class....the problem i dont' have any wealth......hm......i hate the e-class....its sour grape for me.
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2013-05-24 08:04
[#36] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
@seanbeer
Gimme a break, no wealth!?
(AFAIK most folks here in r33 do have wealth... except maybe me)

What's your definition of "wealth"?
And where does your wealth go? Liquid assets? Property? Something like that?

No wonder you can't show "wealth" with a E, becuz a E is just not good enough. Perhaps you already got access to some S'es......??
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[#37] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
simcity hing, how does it compare with the BMW 5 in term of driving?
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Jaxx C Hing,

These are my own observations:
F10 5 series:
1.Longer wheel base, and feels more stable on highway. Very comfortable in steady speed on highway too.

2.A little bit clumsy in handling on hill side road due to longer wheelbase, especially tight corners. And keep reminding you this is a "big" vehicle.

3.Slightly loose in body control on uneven roads (for models without electronic dampers)

4.Precise steering and adequate weighting, but without enough feedback from the road and slightly artificial.

5.8 speed automatic is immaculate and well judged. You rarely need to use the +/- mode.


Current E class:
1.It feels slightly more agile and smaller in size on the road.

2.Suspension setup is softer and hence much better ride comfort for passengers, especially for long journey on uneven roads.

3.Gearbox response is a bit slow and 7speed auto is not that refined by comparison. And the gearshift on the steering column is not that user friendly.

4. More body roll but well contained.

Overall:
1. Both are FR setup and they really excel as executive sedans. You don't have much choices on the market, namely 5series, A6, Eclass and Lexus GS. Each has its own strength and shortcomings.

2. I think they aim for different buyers. For E class, the response from the gearbox, steering and throttle are all slower. But this may be a plus point for mature drivers. Also road manner is more calm and feels more natural provided you don't push it to the limit.

3. 5 series feels slightly more sportier and suit more committed drivers. However, it is more artificial. Overall response is quicker but for uneven road with larger rims(18 inch or larger), the ride may suffer.

If you still find it a bit confusing, may be test driving one yourself may give you the ultimate answer :)



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simcity
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[#38] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
anon99, why did you get agitated? From what I read, seanbeer was not referrring to anyone or you here. Probably he was saying that to himself. I may be wrong though

As to your view, again, you can deem or profusely refuse to anything, in particular, as you said, you only need a floor shift auto with rear camera. So I am certain that merc is not targeting you as a customer, potential or otherwise. Most upmarket merc sedans are not using floor shift anymore.

Since you are only after a floor shift with rear camera, please seriously consider any car, the more economical or cheaper may be the better, and get to MK to purchase a set of rear camera and stuck it up the rear....of your car. That will serve your purpose

Also I am not standing by simcity. I have no reason to do so. Its just that you disagree for the sake of disagreeing and without valid basis. I dont agree with your view obviously as you view is hollow and groundless. while you can keep putting forward your accusations, remember, Merc wont give a damn. Judging from your accusations, you wont be a merc customer in near future

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mahimahi
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[#39] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
我渣左部四眼仔成5年都未開過個果頭燈噴水。只係開頭試用過一次。噴完D水出泥,流落個bumper度,起晒皂水跡。係香港路面,跟本吾需要用。
leochan
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2013-05-24 13:05
[#40] Mercedes-Benz 全新 E-Class 終於抵港    
頭燈噴水 is cool and a classic old merc thing, but i don't see what real beniefit it will have in Hogn Kong.

yes i was talking to myself. I have some wealth, but i couldn't afford a brand new merc surely. maybe a brand new polo i can, just saw that on the right, from 153,800!
seanbeer
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2013-05-24 13:54
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