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[#39] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
呃自己!


伊雲士
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2024-02-29 16:49
[#40] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
最近中招後試過血壓 96/69. 嚇到唔敢食血壓藥。

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S.Chan
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2024-02-29 16:56
[#41] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
睇 youtube 血壓藥分 3 級類別,第3級好多時對個腎做成慢性傷害,政府開的多數係最差的那級,如果食咗好多年有驗血驗尿監測住冇事就OK,如果冇監測就要驗血驗尿 check一check。
0925
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2024-02-29 17:46
[#42] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
#41

我未退休前在衛生署及HA做了幾十年。從未見過醫生開"最差"的血壓藥。高血壓本身就容易令腎有事。同一隻藥係會揀最平嘅來買。以前 amlodipine , sartans等等...唔開確係唔會一線即開。後來有 generic,平好多,好多藥就變成一線。
全世界藥用指引一路改,今時今日最最最平的利尿藥、 beta blockers--metoprolol都好少開俾新病人了。


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ich
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2024-02-29 18:58
[#43] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
#41
大部份政府醫院嘅血壓藥
都係加拿大澳洲印度歐洲嘅副廠製造的
點樣食到好差呢
再者,全世界英國加拿大澳洲好多地方都係用副廠㗎啦
你喺中環尖沙咀睇私家就可能食正廠
羊毛出自羊身上
arcet
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2024-02-29 19:57
[#44] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
今天的藥,可能來自天朝儍國,我估咋
一縷炊煙
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2024-02-29 20:02
[#45] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
#44
全世界大約80-90%藥物原材料都係同一國家生產
日本本土藥除外
重有其他好特別的生物製劑都唔係
地球共同體

arcet
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2024-02-29 20:09
[#46] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
#41 0925兄, 多謝告之. 只覺食咗政府血壓藥會脚腫,又肯換藥,覺得唔好又換番,昨日去攞其中半次藥血壓藥又改咗包裝。
呢幾年每4個月驗血覆診希望腎無事。
e+醫生好好,因試停一隻藥、攞其中半次藥時來電問有無乜嘢唔舒服等,好詳細。

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S.Chan
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2024-02-29 20:14
[#47] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
S.Chan兄,

女親戚有個老死(肥女人)食咗政府俾血壓藥拾年,個腎衰退至 stage 3b,轉睇腎科,醫生話佢隻血壓藥傷腎,轉藥食咗一個星期后突然休克心臓停頓,救返但係要裝心臓起搏器,而家得半條人命,如果有驗血驗尿,自己睇一睇份報告,睇下個 eGFR result。


以前做 part-time 的同事食政府俾血壓藥9年,昨天問佢政府有冇幫佢驗血驗尿,佢話上個月驗咗,負責俾血壓藥佢個私家醫生話冇嘢,我叫佢揾仔女幫佢睇下個 report,原來已 stage 3a。

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0925
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2024-02-29 20:46
[#48] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
0925兄, thanks, 下次問吓醫生先。
S.Chan
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2024-02-29 20:51
[#49] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
#925先生,請問傷賢個隻血壓藥係邊隻?我食左simvastatin都有十年多,但少驗血,吾知個賢傷曬未?有d驚.
但吾食又會血壓膠、點搞好?
搞錯,原來醫生又有俾個隻 Amlodipine, 可能呢隻先係血壓藥

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Totocrazy
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2024-02-29 22:10
[#50] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
Totocrazy兄,

女親戚個老死我唔識,舊同事話食緊 Atenolol,網上未見有話對腎有傷害。
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=simvastatin+drug+class
Simvastatin is in a class of medications called HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors (statins). It works by slowing the production of cholesterol in the body to decrease the amount of cholesterol that may build up on the walls of the arteries and block blood flow to the heart, brain, and other parts of the body

似乎 simvastatin 唔傷腎
https://www.bowtie.com.hk/blog/zh/%E6%B0%A8%E6%B0%AF%E5%9C%B0%E5%B9%B3/
【Amlodipine/氨氯地平】
高血壓患者:可以幫助控制血壓,預防中風、心臟病和腎病
心絞痛患者:可用於預防心絞痛,提升運動能力,並降低心絞痛發作頻率

過量服食氨氯地平,可能會出現排尿困難、肌肉震顫、頭痛、眩暈、嗜睡、口乾、噁心、嘔吐等症狀

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0925
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[#51] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=is+Atenolol+harmful+to+kidney
Can beta-blockers cause kidney damage?
It seems likely that beta-blockers reduce renal function predominantly by blocking beta 2-receptors in the kidney.

Does atenolol need renal adjustment?
Renal Dosing
Atenolol is excreted by the kidneys; consequently dosage should be adjusted in cases of severe impairment of renal function.

Does atenolol increase creatinine?
With ramipril treatment urinary albumin creatinine ratio (14.4 vs 13.8 mg/mmol) and creatinine clearance (82 vs 84 ml/min) were constant, but with atenolol an increase of albumin creatinine ratio (13.9 vs 19 mg/mmol, p < 0.001) and a slight decrease of creatinine clearance (80 vs 66 ml/min, p < 0.05, not significant ...

Why is atenolol not preferred?
Atenolol may underperform
Although atenolol is one of the most commonly prescribed beta-blockers due to its low cost and once-daily dosing, it may be the least effective.

https://www.kidney-international.org/article/S0085-2538(15)51873-5/fulltext#secst0015
Beta blockers in the management of chronic kidney disease
The sympathetic nervous system modulates renal function through its receptors namely β1 (cardiac output and renin release), α1 (systemic and renovascular constriction), and β2 renovascular dilation. Sympathetic overactivity is commonly seen in chronic kidney disease (CKD) and is an important contributor to increasing the risk of cardiovascular events as well as increasing renal disease progression. Recent evaluations of drug use in people with CKD shows a remarkably low percentage of patients receiving β-blockers, especially in more advanced stage CKD when cardiovascular risk is higher. This is in large part due to tolerability of these agents. Moreover, water-soluble β-blockers such as atenolol and metoprolol are dialyzable and require supplementation to avoid exacerbation of arrhythmias following dialysis. Newer vasodilating β-blockers have better tolerability and different effects on renal hemodynamics as well as metabolic variables. These effects are related to the relative α1-blocking effect of agents such as carvedilol and labetolol, with carvedilol having relatively greater α-blocking effects. Few studies evaluate β-blockers on cardiovascular risk in CKD patients. Studies with carvedilol demonstrate attenuated increases in albuminuria as well as reduction in cardiovascular events in CKD patients with hypertension. This paper reviews the animal and clinical trial data that evaluate β-blockers in CKD highlighting the vasodilating β-blockers. It is apparent that greater use of this drug class for blood pressure control would further enhance reduction of risk of heart failure, the most common cause of death in the first year of starting dialysis.

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0925
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2024-02-29 22:58
[#52] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
simvastatin係降膽固醇藥物,食咗幾個月我知有機會傷肝、胰之後就冇食。
沉默的膏蟹
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2024-02-29 23:01
[#53] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
Not exactly harming liver direct but blocking the channel which produces both CHOL and coenzyme Q10. If no supplement of latter, having Statin is even worse wrt heart attack.

In reality, CHOL is not anything bad. Only oxidation of LDL is.

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2024-03-01 06:28
[#54] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
睇 youtube 腎科醫生話 CoQ10 對降血壓和保腎有幫助。


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0925
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2024-03-01 09:35
[#55] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
我試緊食靈芝降血壓, 靈芝對腎亦好 .
沉默的膏蟹
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2024-03-01 09:42
[#56] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
Wife is having such brand(oil based for easy absorption), good for teeth disease, periodontitis.牙週病 No more tooth ache since then.

Myself, having this from 2 days ago due to other reason.



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alexanderkoo
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2024-03-01 09:43
[#57] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
如果冇記錯,腎科醫生話 Omega 3 對改善血管硬化、降血壓和保腎有幫助,不過要食 2000mg / day。


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0925
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[#58] 想買血壓計, 有冇好介紹?    
要留意 靈芝 對個胃有負擔。
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2024-03-01 09:53
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