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[#923] BioNtech 揮手區    
My ex-colleague wanted to dine with me. No brothers four, sorry.
alexanderkoo
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2021-08-24 08:45
[#924] BioNtech 揮手區    
#922 朋友中有兩個話驚自己身體頂唔順BioNTech咁「勁」所以打四兄,一個係銀行高層港媽,一個退休中醫師,我聽到都O曬咀
olddude
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2021-08-24 08:51
[#925] BioNtech 揮手區    
請問有冇人知現在香港打緊的BioNtech 有冇話係第幾代?

是否已比第一代有改良版本?
i-walker
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2021-08-24 08:51
[#926] BioNtech 揮手區    
Never heard of such. Only a third dose Vs variant is still under development.
alexanderkoo
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2021-08-24 08:57
[#927] BioNtech 揮手區    
四興 冇效但係安全啲, 要交數咪打
報必泰 多啲併發症係事實, 你識人喺醫院做就知, 但係保護能力高亦係事實, 但係唔代表唔會中招

blackboyslim
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2021-08-24 09:11
[#928] BioNtech 揮手區    
>> #924, 禾夠經典,一家三口分屬三個不同年代但一齊同日同地方由同一護士打同一批次嘅針,結果一如所料,老嘅完全冇反應,中間嘅一針有反應,細嘅(12~17果批)二針都有反應,但同屬正常反應,好多人話禾好勇一齊打唔驚㗎咩?! 其實驚條毛咩!

禾仲好間接咁幫咗公司同事做決定,因為老闆將禾嘅打針經歷做內部宣傳叫人唔使咁驚打BNT,而佢自己一家人亦係3月份第一批打針嘅人不過佢一家係分開打。 由3月到今日為止,公司內打咗BNT嘅人冇一位有嚴重反應包括一位剛做媽咪嘅高層同事。

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AndyTKO
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2021-08-24 10:00
[#929] BioNtech 揮手區    
>> 報必泰 多啲併發症係事實, 你識人喺醫院做就知,


禾有2位現職政府男護士嘅朋友,3月份時話過死都唔會打,但最終係上個月都打咗BNT。
AndyTKO
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2021-08-24 10:07
[#930] BioNtech 揮手區    
家中長者開初受我哋鼓勵去打針,叫過佢打來佬貨,但係佢睇開過老家庭醫生自己都打4兄,於是佢堅持去佢診所打4兄,我哋做家人無奈接受,肯打就已經好好,而家反而佢自己話有D後悔,話biontect 好似保護力好啲,我同佢講唯有等出年溝針打booster
happyboy
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2021-08-24 10:08
[#931] BioNtech 揮手區    
You are already in better position, mom refused to have vaccination at all due to her age and under the pretext of seldom going out. Parents not listening to kids, only listen to friends, common Chinese culture especially for illiterate. I gave birth to you, why should I listen to you?
alexanderkoo
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2021-08-24 10:14
[#932] BioNtech 揮手區    
其實啲人成日話驚打針有副作用,咁啲副作用係乜?通常咪又係針口痛、攰、發燒,就算後生會有心肌炎通常幾日就好返,又唔諗下中咗招有可能要入院住幾耐,就算好返有乜後遺症(好多肺功能下降,聽聞有啲無咗味覺),同打針比,死亡率幾多?知唔知跳舞群組原來重有兩個响醫院插晒喉唔知出唔出到嚟。It’s all in the numbers。
olddude
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2021-08-24 10:20
[#933] BioNtech 揮手區    
>> 但係佢睇開過老家庭醫生自己都打4兄,於是佢堅持去佢診所打4兄


你呢個故事同禾係去年認識嘅一位長者嘅故事差唔多,佢係97後退休嘅前朝差佬,今年75,又係聽乜乜老醫生意見打咗4兄。
AndyTKO
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2021-08-24 10:20
[#934] BioNtech 揮手區    
我以前位大陸老廠長係讀書人,被文革鬥過,游水落香港又蕩失路所以失敗,佢係七十週年閱兵同我講,你老共搞能掂啲奶粉先講飛機大炮啦!
前一排傾下電話吹下水,佢話真係唔明點解香港咁多on9佬,大陸連奶粉都搞唔掂,你信佢嘅疫苗?
Dlbf
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2021-08-24 10:47
[#935] BioNtech 揮手區    
又咁講,又不能怪責得哂D人,好多人尤其係長者都有自己睇開嘅醫生,會覺得去到熟悉嘅診所,有醫生跟一跟做過簡單嘅檢查先打,會感覺安心啲,況且好多長者唔識上網book, 就算幫佢book,佢又怕到要打嗰日起身覺得唔多精神要放飛機,有時好難明白啲人係點諗,但花點時間了解後又覺得佢哋有佢哋嘅道理
happyboy
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2021-08-24 10:48
[#936] BioNtech 揮手區    
只能夠話,盡量講解,有打點都好過唔打
happyboy
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2021-08-24 10:51
[#937] BioNtech 揮手區    
心肌炎係咪住幾日院就好返?

個問題係我覺得政府有必要畀人知, 無咗通報機制, 遲咗幾耐先公佈心肌炎係併發症?政府星期日喺傷台買airtime, 揾許木昌解答聽眾問題講乜嘢病都打得, 只要未死都打得, 會唔會有啲誤導?


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blackboyslim
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2021-08-24 11:03
[#938] BioNtech 揮手區    
邊個話德國貨副作用大,信個過都on 9
newboy
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2021-08-24 11:57
[#939] BioNtech 揮手區    
>心肌炎係咪住幾日院就好返?

So far 香港同美國嘅cases都係, 美國新聞話通常一至兩日休息就無事, 香港人就矜貴啲, 最長一星期
依家正苦乜都唔講嘅愚民政策只會令有懷疑的更加唔會打

>遲咗幾耐先公佈心肌炎係併發症?

美國批12歲以上可以打Pifzer 時講明年輕人會有機會有心肌炎, 但機會甚低而且好輕微. 當然響香港愚民政策資訊唔清唔楚之下有心人自然有咁大煲咁大

>邊個話德國貨副作用大,信個過都on 9

BNT/Pifzer 係有高機會有副作用, 但副作用唔係大, again 有心人以訛傳訛created confusion

咁睇囉, 響美國係senior homes 高齡人士打先, 又有咁多三高人士照打, 如果有廣泛同嚴重嘅副作用一早就有ambulance chasers去搞class action 告政府同Pifzer.

>只要未死都打得, 會唔會有啲誤導?

不如話香港正苦為瀉膊將個責任推落市民度叫你有乜事問醫生 (普通醫生咪又係跟正苦guidelines, 為求唔洗背鑊你估佢地會點advise?), 搞到人心惶惶, 有人驗晒身做埋CT先敢打, 咁樣咪重誤導

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olddude
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2021-08-24 12:32
[#940] BioNtech 揮手區    
原文: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

摘要 (八月十七日更新):

過敏反應 (每一百萬二至五人)
Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 2 to 5 people per million vaccinated in the United States. Severe allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, can occur after any vaccination. If this occurs, vaccination providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis.

心肌炎 (1,306 個30歲或以下懷疑個案)
Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. As of August 11, 2021, VAERS has received 1,306 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received COVID-19 vaccine. Most cases have been reported after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), particularly in male adolescents and young adults. Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and FDA have confirmed 762 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination.

打針後死亡率 (總之打過一針都計都係0.0019%)
Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 357 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through August 16, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,789 reports of death (0.0019%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths pdf icon
olddude
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2021-08-24 13:23
[#941] BioNtech 揮手區    
>心肌炎係咪住幾日院就好返?

美國CDC report:

Most patients who received care responded well to treatment and rest and quickly felt better.

Confirmed cases have occurred:

Mostly in male adolescents and young adults age 16 years or older
More often after getting the second dose than after the first dose of one of these two mRNA COVID-19 vaccines
Typically within several days after COVID-19 vaccination

原文: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html

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olddude
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2021-08-24 13:27
[#942] BioNtech 揮手區    
Having vaccination is on the assumption that one would contract the virus sooner or later and not assuming none so any vaccines would be ok. Why not have no vaccination at all? However, it's hard to prove one hasn't contract the virus or contracting yet vaccine being effective.

As such, one would set the priority for effective vaccine which is more real than the one claimed to have fewer side effects, statistics can be covered up.
alexanderkoo
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2021-08-24 13:46
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