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| [#1] Telegram CEO Durov 發文 以下內容由 TG極客 @TGgeek 按照原文翻譯，不代表本頻道的觀點和立場。 我（Durov）一直在評論中參與討論並回答問題。 以下是一些回覆。 ● 關於蘋果和谷歌的審查制度 是的，蘋果和谷歌的雙寡頭壟斷對自由構成了更大的問題，比Twitter（我在去年夏天詳細介紹過）。 蘋果是兩者中比較危險的，因為它可以完全限制你使用哪些應用，而在安卓系統上，你可以將自帶的應用作為 APK 安裝。 這就是為什麼我一直在敦促用戶從 iOS 切換到 Android 的原因，這是最起碼可以保留信息自由流動的渠道。 至於 iOS，我們正在開發一款功能豐富的網絡應用，它在 Safari 中的運行幾乎和原生應用一樣流暢。 這依然不是一回事，但在極端情況下會有效。 ● 關於公佈服務器端代碼 確實，我也對在那些提到服務器端代碼的人感到困惑。 發布服務器代碼並不能保證隱私，因為與客戶端代碼不同的是，你無法驗證服務器上運行運行的是否是相同的代碼。 而且你甚至不需要服務器端代碼來檢查私密聊天的完整性，無論服務器如何運行，它們都是可靠的（這就是關鍵）。 換句話說，公佈服務器端代碼無助於驗證私密聊天或云聊天，並且這會構成一個與安全無關的營銷噱頭。 我（Durov）：Telegram 應用的代碼是公開的。 它是可以驗證的。 沒有其他應用在所有移動平台上都有可驗證的版本。 WhatsApp 的代碼是隱藏的，並且故意混淆代碼。 困惑的用戶：你在撒謊，你的服務器代碼沒有公佈! 我（Durov）lol。 那麼，為什麼無論如何都不公佈服務器代碼，哪怕只是為了一個宣傳的噱頭呢？ 3年前，我得知一個獨裁政權（你們可以猜到是哪個）正在尋找一種獲取電報服務器代碼的方法。 他們的計劃是推出自己的具有同樣方便功能的本地應用，然後關閉國內所有其他社交媒體。 在聽到這個消息後，我把我們發布服務器代碼的計劃擱置了。 我不想為獨裁者提供奴役民眾的工具，這不應該成為 Telegram 的遺產。 我們不會背叛我們的價值觀，僅因為少數困惑的用戶似乎認為發布服務器端代碼會以某種方式提高可驗證性。 ● 關於注重隱私的廣告平台 謝謝，但我們絕不會強迫你在 Telegram 上觀看30秒的廣告。 如果我們引入廣告，廣告將只在一對多的大型頻道中顯示，這些頻道由於服務器和流量成本的原因而導致運行費用高昂（比如我的頻道@durov），而且這些廣告不基於任何私人數據進行 定位（與Facebook 不同）。 所以，它們不會收集私人數據，不會進行用戶畫像等。 而且如果你不使用我們的一對多頻道（這在其他所有消息應用中都是不存在的），你不會看到任何廣告。 我最近在這裡描述了我們對貨幣化的想法。 ● 關於美國的加密應用軟件 我不明白這兩個應用怎麼能相提並論。 Telegram 是一個功能豐富的社交媒體平台，你可以用它來擺脫 Facebook 和 WhatsApp 的壟斷。 Signal 代表了 Telegram 的一個功能，那就是私密聊天。 如果你認為你只需要一個單獨的應用來實現這個功能，那麼安裝它對你來說可能是有意義的。 不過就我個人而言，我覺得私密聊天更可用，也更安全。 在 PRIS M之後，我很難相信任何基於美國的東西，更不用說美國政府資助的密碼專家了。 我在2017年的時候解釋了我的理由。 ● 關於私密聊天與雲聊天的加密與可用性的對比 這才是重點。 Telegram 的實時安全雲是我們大多數用戶想要的功能，也是Telegram 的競爭優勢之一，它允許多設備無縫同步，可以訪問過去的聊天記錄、龐大的群聊和頻道、持久儲存的消息歷史 、發送大型文檔和視頻、無需重新上傳的即時媒體轉發、最大限度地減少手機上的存儲使用量、即使丟失手機也不會丟失消息，以及許多其他減少帶寬、電池和存儲使用量的強大功能。 少數人不想要這些，他們想以犧牲可用性為代價來最大化安全性，更願意在 Telegram 上使用私密聊天，或者安裝任何只有私密聊天而沒有其他功能的應用。 但我們不會因為一些人被競爭對手的營銷伎倆所誤導，或者當他們認為需要私密聊天的時候卻懶得啟用私密聊天，而丟掉 Telegram 的幾十個強大功能，從而削弱 Telegram。 我在2017年詳細介紹過這個問題。 ● 關於最大限度提高通信安全 沒錯，私密聊天只存儲在一台設備上。 任何形式的備份和同步都會降低安全性，因為任何一個終端都可能被破壞。 超安全通信應該是特定於設備的，在理想情況下，你應該有一個burner phone （ TG極客@TGgeek 注："burner phone"是指一種不會被長期使用的手機，它通常是預付費 手機並且沒有持久的套餐合同，其擁有者可以在被追踪前隨時處置、丟棄它。）並使用一張註冊到隨機他人的SIM 卡，並且在你很少使用主力機的地點去使用它，當然 ，你也不能在上面登錄你真正的谷歌或蘋果帳戶。 其他的一切都是安全的假象，因為 iOS 和 Android 都有很多後門，可以被一些第三方機構用來入侵你的手機，獲取你的私人數據。 不幸的是，這就是我們所處的世界。 via. @durov #Telegram @TGgeek 最後修改時間: 2021-01-13 15:12:22 |
KevinLo 正式會員221.xxx.xxx.51 |
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| [#2] Telegram CEO Durov 發文 In the first week of January, Telegram surpassed 500 million monthly active users. After that it kept growing: 25 million new users joined Telegram in the last 72 hours alone. These new users came from across the globe – 38% from Asia, 27% from Europe, 21% from Latin America and 8% from MENA. This is a significant increase compared to last year, when 1.5M new users signed up every day. We've had surges of downloads before, throughout our 7-year history of protecting user privacy. But this time is different. People no longer want to exchange their privacy for free services. They no longer want to be held hostage by tech monopolies that seem to think they can get away with anything as long as their apps have a critical mass of users. With half a billion active users and accelerating growth, Telegram has become the largest refuge for those seeking a communication platform committed to privacy and security. We take this responsibility very seriously. We won’t let you down. Those of you who have used Telegram for the last several years know we've been consistent both when it comes to defending private data and to improving our apps. For those of you who just joined and are wondering what Telegram stands for, I' d like to quote my post from 2018: You – our users – have been and will always be our only priority. Unlike other popular apps, Telegram doesn’t have shareholders or advertisers to report to. We don't do deals with marketers, data miners or government agencies. Since the day we launched in August 2013 we haven’t disclosed a single byte of our users' private data to third parties. We operate this way because we don't regard Telegram as an organization or an app. For us, Telegram is an idea; it is the idea that everyone on this planet has a right to be free. 最後修改時間: 2021-01-13 15:15:32 |
KevinLo 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.51 |
2021-01-13 15:14 |
| [#3] Telegram CEO Durov 發文 As Telegram approaches 500 million active users, many of you are asking the question – who is going to pay to support this growth? After all, more users mean more expenses for traffic and servers. A project of our size needs at least a few hundred million dollars per year to keep going. For most of Telegram’s history, I paid for the expenses of the company from my personal savings. However, with its current growth Telegram is on track to reach billions of users and to require appropriate funding. When a tech project reaches this scale, typically there are two options – start earning money to cover the costs, or sell the company. Hence the question – which path will Telegram take? I’d like to make a few points to clarify our plan: 1. We are not going to sell the company like the founders of Whatsapp. The world needs Telegram to stay independent as a place where users are respected and high-quality service is ensured. Telegram must continue to serve the world as an example of a tech company that strives for perfection and integrity. And, as the sad examples of our predecessors show, that is impossible if you become part of a corporation. 2. Telegram is here to stay for a long time. We began developing our apps for our personal use over 8 years ago and have come a long way since then. In the process, Telegram changed the way people communicate in several aspects – encryption, functionality, simplicity, design, speed. This journey has just started. There’s much more we can – and will – bring to the world. 3. In order to make points 1 and 2 possible, Telegram will begin to generate revenue, starting next year. We will do it in accordance with our values and the pledges we have made over the last 7 years. Thanks to our current scale, we will be able to do it in a non-intrusive way. Most users will hardly notice any change. 4. All the features that are currently free will stay free. We will add some new features for business teams or power users. Some of these features will require more resources and will be paid for by these premium users. Regular users will be able to keep enjoying Telegram – for free, forever. 5. All parts of Telegram devoted to messaging will remain ad-free. We think that displaying ads in private 1-to-1 chats or group chats is a bad idea. Communication between people should be free of advertising of any sort. 6. In addition to its messaging component, Telegram has a social networking dimension. Our massive public one-to-many channels can have millions of subscribers each and are more like Twitter feeds. In many markets the owners of such channels display ads to earn money, sometimes using third-party ad platforms. The ads they post look like regular messages, and are often intrusive. We will fix this by introducing our own Ad Platform for public one-to-many channels – one that is user-friendly, respects privacy and allows us to cover the costs of servers and traffic. 7. If Telegram starts earning money, the community should also benefit. For example, If we monetize large public one-to-many channels via the Ad Platform, the owners of these channels will receive free traffic in proportion to their size. Or, if Telegram introduces premium stickers with additional expressive features, the artists who make stickers of this new type will also get a part of the profit. We want millions of Telegram-based creators and small businesses to thrive, enriching the experience of all our users. This is the Telegram way. It will allow us to keep innovating and keep growing for decades to come. We will be able to launch countless new features and welcome billions of new users. While doing that, we will remain independent and stay true to our values, redefining how a tech company should operate. |
KevinLo 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.51 |
2021-01-13 15:34 |
| [#4] Telegram CEO Durov 發文 I hear Facebook has an entire department devoted to figuring out why Telegram is so popular. Imagine dozens of employees working on just that full-time. I am happy to save Facebook tens of millions of dollars and give away our secret for free: respect your users. Millions of people are outraged by the latest change in WhatsApp Terms, which now say users must feed all their private data to Facebook’s ad engine [1]. It’s no surprise that the flight of users from WhatsApp to Telegram, already ongoing for a few years, has accelerated. At about 500 million users and growing, Telegram has become a major problem for the Facebook corporation. Unable to compete with Telegram in quality and privacy, Facebook’s WhatsApp seems to have switched to covert marketing: Wikipedia editors have recently exposed multiple paid bots adding biased information into the WhatsApp Wikipedia article [2]. We have also detected bots which spread inaccurate information about Telegram on social media. Here are the 3 myths they are pushing: Myth 1. “Telegram’s code is not open-source”. In reality, all Telegram client apps have been open source since 2013 [3]. Our encryption and API are fully documented and have been reviewed by security experts thousands of times. Moreover, Telegram is the only messaging app in the world that has verifiable builds both for iOS and Android [4]. As for WhatsApp, they intentionally obfuscate their code, making it impossible to verify their encryption and privacy. Myth 2. “Telegram is Russian”. In fact, Telegram has no servers or offices in Russia and was blocked there from 2018 to 2020 [5]. Telegram is still blocked in some authoritarian countries such as Iran, while WhatsApp and other “supposedly secure” apps have never had any issue in these places. Myth 3. “Telegram is not encrypted”. Every chat on Telegram has been encrypted since launch. We have Secret Chats that are end-to-end and Cloud Chats that also offer real-time secure and distributed cloud storage [6]. WhatsApp, on the other hand, had zero encryption for a few years, and then adopted an encryption protocol funded by the US Government [7]. Even if we assume that the WhatsApp encryption is solid, it’s invalidated via multiple backdoors and reliance on backups [8]. In 2019 alone, Facebook spent almost 10 billion dollars on marketing [9] (I guess this includes paid bots on Wikipedia and other sites). Unlike Facebook, Telegram doesn't spend any money, let alone billions of dollars, on marketing. We believe that people are smart enough to choose what is best for them. And, judging by the half a billion people using Telegram, this belief is justified. [1] – WhatsApp Gives Users Ultimatum – Share Data with Facebook or Lose Access [2] – In December 2020, the Wikipedia article about WhatsApp had the label “This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use”. Related investigation is discussed here. [3] – Telegram Source Code [4] – Reproducible Builds for Telegram Apps [5] – On Digital Resistance in Russia [6] – On Telegram Encryption [7] – U.S. Government Funded The WhatsApp Encryption [8] – Why WhatsApp Will Never Be Secure [9] – Facebook Marketing Spending from 2010 to 2019 |
KevinLo 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.51 |
2021-01-13 15:35 |
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