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| [#43] Leica Club SWC, Fill in the unfinished user list lar......! |
and.t 正式會員219.xxx.xxx.198 |
2005-10-01 18:18 | |
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| [#44] Leica Club Agree with you again for "Both M3 and M4 are also "piece of art". I have used from M2-M6 and still own some M3-M6s. Apart from those military models, in terms of built quality, my order of preference would be M3, M2, M4(German made models only), M5 then M6. But for design and easy of use, M6 is still the best. M3+ f2/50mm is really a good start to join the Leica family. The viewfinder (x.9) of M3 could be inconvenient for those ferquent user of 28-35mm lenses, but may be a welcome for those telephoto lovers. When you own a Leica (M model especially), you will treat it as an art work of precise craftmanship. Any electronics built into it will contaminate the spirit of the initial design. You want to own a Leica not because it has the best series of lenses on earth (actually it doesn't), but just for it is a legend in photographic industry. This is similar to Patek Philippe which is also a lengend representing the highest craftmanship and design complication in horology. Everyone knows a PP of any value will be no more accurate in time keeping than a 300 hundred dollar Seiko quartz. Since I have not done any film photography for the last two years, all my Leica gears are for collection only (until one day a cheaper digital body is marketed to accommodate Leica lenses). I use digital camera for its easy of processing print output. I wonder if it is suitable for me to fill in the user list in such status. But i should be delighted to post sharing of my limited exdperience in Leica if other club members feel interested. |
swc 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.31 |
2005-10-01 23:07 |
| [#45] Leica Club Nice thread. I would like to join. I own a Leica CL, M2 & M3 with some old style screw mount (with adapter) Leica lens. |
ilovesonatas 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.249 |
2005-10-01 23:25 |
| [#46] Leica Club stanfield hing, I remember my friend had told me, fixed focus Leica lens is superior than zoon lens. If you really "heat" on Leica, its better to collect their lens. And I remember if you collect them all needs around HK$200k. And then no problem at 135mm film camera. More advance 120 film, neverend................. |
sugizo 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.10 |
2005-10-02 00:00 |
| [#47] Leica Club Take some fresh air folks !  |
and.t 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.153 |
2005-10-02 00:32 |
| [#48] Leica Club Air 2  |
and.t 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.153 |
2005-10-02 00:33 |
| [#49] Leica Club I want to join I owned M6, lens 21/f2.8, 28/f2.8, 50/f1.4, 90/f2.8 , APO135/f3.4 & R8 lens 24/f2.8 minilux, binocular 10x42 but now I changed to digital. |
lion 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.29 |
2005-10-02 13:35 |
| [#50] Leica Club New comers, please fill out the user list: 1.Pang : M6 (35/F2 and 50/F2) 2.Stanfield: M4P (was) 3.Rayan: FZ-10 4.Yukclee: M3 DS + M6, Lenses:50/F2,28/F2.8,35/F2,90/F2.8 5.And.t: M4+M6TTL+R6.2, Lenses: M35/1.4,M50/F2,R24/F2.4,R35/2,R100/F2.8 marco 6.2A3: M6TTL (what lenses) 7.xellshooter: Fx-7(ex-user),Lx-1(current). Leica manual film fans. hope one day I get one ^^ cheers 8.lo5boy: M6TTL + 50mm/F2.8 +35mm/F2 (looking for a LX1, leica? panasonic? 9.sugizo: Minilux zoom with flash light set. 10. Lion: M6, lens 21/f2.8, 28/f2.8, 50/f1.4, 90/f2.8 , APO135/f3.4 & R8 lens 24/f2.8 minilux, binocular 10x42.........and digital... - To be cont'l- |
and.t 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.44 |
2005-10-02 19:54 |
| [#51] Leica Club Incredible81: M3, M4, M6, M6 0.85 x 2, M6 TTL Dragon, M7, MP Black Paint, R8 Lens: 21/2.8 ASPH, 28/2 ASPH, 35/2 8 Elements, 35/2.8 Summaron, 35/3.5, 35/2 ASPH, 50/2.8, 50/2, 50/1.4 Black Paint, 75/1.4, 90/2.8, 90/2AA, Angelieux 35/2.5, 135/4. R35/2.8, R50/1.4, R100/2.8 APO Macro, R180/2.8 APO Still want to buy more... I love Leica... |
incredible81 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.151 |
2005-10-02 20:07 |
| [#52] Leica Club Hi. Anyone has comment on the R 21mm/F4 Superangulon? |
live 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.134 |
2005-10-02 22:50 |
| [#53] Leica Club I used to have the R21/4 Superangulon . It was made by Scheneider. The colour reproduction is slightly different from those by Leica . A bit cool, the resolution and colour are top class. It is very bulky. I sold it with the R 7 and took the M series . Any way , it is an excellent len at 21mm. |
ksl 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.67 |
2005-10-02 23:15 |
| [#54] Leica Club New comers, please fill out the user list: 1.Pang : M6 (35/F2 and 50/F2) 2.Stanfield: M4P (was) 3.Rayan: FZ-10 4.Yukclee: M3 DS + M6, Lenses:50/F2,28/F2.8,35/F2,90/F2.8 5.And.t: M4+M6TTL+R6.2, Lenses: M35/1.4,M50/F2,R24/F2.4,R35/2,R100/F2.8 marco 6.2A3: M6TTL (what lenses) 7.xellshooter: Fx-7(ex-user),Lx-1(current). Leica manual film fans. hope one day I get one ^^ cheers 8.lo5boy: M6TTL + 50mm/F2.8 +35mm/F2 (looking for a LX1, leica? panasonic? 9.sugizo: Minilux zoom with flash light set. 10. Lion: M6, lens 21/f2.8, 28/f2.8, 50/f1.4, 90/f2.8 , APO135/f3.4 & R8 lens 24/f2.8 minilux, binocular 10x42.........and digital... 11. BenYC: M6HM, M6 - 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2, 50/1, 75/1.4 90/2.8. R4, R6.2, R8, R9 - 19/2.8, 24/2.8, 35/2, 50/2, 80/1.4, 100/2.8, 135/2.8, 70-180/2.8, 28-70 zoom Minilux zoom IIIf + 50 |
BenYC 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.154 |
2005-10-04 23:52 |
| [#55] Leica Club M5, M6 Classic, CL, 21/f3.4 Super Angulon, 35/f1.4, 35/f2.0, 50/f1.4, 90/f2.0, 90/f4... but all were sold on 2003 |
*DIY* 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.116 |
2005-10-04 23:57 |
| [#56] Leica Club I still miss my like new condition M5 Chrome 3-lug..... ＞_＜  |
*DIY* 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.116 |
2005-10-05 00:02 |
| [#57] Leica Club Good to know this club. I have many leica stuff, both R, M and old IIIg, IIg, Leica I, and so on... Besides my wife, two lovely kids, and my life... Leica will be stay with my for the rest of my time... I also played digital, from Nikon D1 - Canon 5D... I still like Leica. The first picture and.t hing used 35mm at f8.0 or f11. Very rich color because using Fuji film. For 35mm f1.4 problem, I think swc hing requires to test the len back to repair center. BTW, there is only one reason to use 35mm at f1.4, the image should not be away from you more than 1.5 meters. Who will care about the coners of the frame? I knew a good friend, Mr. Zhou Hai, a prof in China. He used M6 and 35mm f1.4 over 10 years. He lived in the minning field over 2 years for his workshops. He always told me that if you like Leica M, you did not need more than 3 lens; 35mm, 50mm, 90mm. this is his web site for your reference: http://www.zhouhai.com/index/IntroductionFrame.htm |
leicatam 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.98 |
2005-10-05 03:17 |
| [#58] Leica Club Hi all Leica fans, Any comments on Leica's digital cameras ?? Thanks. |
rickymartin 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.253 |
2005-10-05 11:51 |
| [#59] Leica Club I sugest Pro. Zhou to replace the 50mm to 21mm. He can get more dynamic pictures. |
ksl 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.253 |
2005-10-05 11:52 |
| [#60] Leica Club leicatam hing Thanks for your advise, but the 35mm.f1.4 lenses i tried was about in the year 1984, when i bought from Kinefoto and took several photos at fully opened aperture just for testing its performance. The result came out to be very soft across the entire frame which was not a usable f stop for practical use. I then swap for another one from Kinefoto, but with same result. I ended up purchased the f2/35mm. instead. I did inquire Ho Yi Yam, a then master in repairing Leica M in HK, about the problem. His answer confirmed my finding. Agree with you the f1.4 aperture is only suitable for close distance and under low lighting condition. If you really wanted to have M f1.4/35mm in the 1980's or earlier days, you got no choice but have to accept its limitation. But considering the price difference between the f2 and f1.4, the f2 was a better choice. Yes, it is quite ture, for M series you need only 3 lenses as Mr.Zhou indicated. Especially in the field of photography he is specialised in, industrial photo-journalist I presume, no other camera will out-perform the Leica M series. IMHO |
swc 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.207 |
2005-10-05 14:51 |
| [#61] Leica Club Hello M friends here, I am wondering why is 35/1.4 at wide open only good for close distance? Shouldn't it be the contrary as the depth of field is so shallow at 1.4 and the focusing system in M is kind of limiting. Hope friends here can share some experience here. Cheers. |
BenYC 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.178 |
2005-10-05 18:04 |
| [#62] Leica Club BenYC hing, It is rather difficult to explain. In theory, it shouldn't be. Actually if the performance at wide open is unacceptable with major abberations such as low contrast, softening of images with vignetting and flare...etc., then it won't give any good result no matter taking shots of close distance or at infinity. However, sometimes when shooting under unfavourable condition where the weakness of the lens is not emphasised, we might consider its performance as acceptable. Since everyone with photographic knowledge knows that the depth of field is shallow at f1.4, especially at close distance shots, it could be as small as only few inches or even less, thus hiding up some of the lens abberation affecting the shot. It fools the viewer that the effect is caused by the environment or physical property rather than lens abberations. IMHO only. BTW the focusing system in M has nothing to do with the depth of field. May be i misunderstood what you meant. |
swc 正式會員 61.xxx.xxx.31 |
2005-10-06 00:44 |
