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[#21] Leica Club    
Try to list down the users and their gears here:

1.Pang : M6 (Lens please)

2.Stanfield: M4P (was)

3.Rayan: FZ-10

4.Yukclee: M3 DS + M6,
Lenses:50/F2,28/F2.8,35/F2,90/F2.8

5.And.t: M4+M6TTL+R6.2,
Lenses: M35/1.4,M50/F2,R24/F2.4,R35/2,R100/F2.8 marco

-to be cont'l by new members-
and.t
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210.xxx.xxx.17
2005-09-30 18:07
[#22] Leica Club    
actually i was very regrested to sell out the set of leica...i had a 20mm and 90mm (forgot the model)...for now i want to buy another set again.
stanfield
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202.xxx.xxx.64
2005-09-30 18:09
[#23] Leica Club    
Buddy,

It is no 20mm lens that Leica ever made, either it was a M 21 Super-augulon or M 21 2.8 Elmarit !!

I have owned but sole out an old dual-range 7 elements 50 sumicron too, the old taste that today lens no longer carried.
and.t
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210.xxx.xxx.17
2005-09-30 18:29
[#24] Leica Club    
報到!
M6 TTL
2A3
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203.xxx.xxx.109
2005-09-30 18:43
[#25] Leica Club    
Folks please complete the list.

1.Pang : M6 (Lens please)

2.Stanfield: M4P (was)

3.Rayan: FZ-10

4.Yukclee: M3 DS + M6,
Lenses:50/F2,28/F2.8,35/F2,90/F2.8

5.And.t: M4+M6TTL+R6.2,
Lenses: M35/1.4,M50/F2,R24/F2.4,R35/2,R100/F2.8 marco

6.2A3: M6TTL (what lenses)

-to be cont'l by the new members-
and.t
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210.xxx.xxx.17
2005-09-30 18:54
[#26] Leica Club    
I agree with and.t
All people interested in this engineering piece of art should all be welcomed.
I enjoyed them because of their mechanical build quality and optics of another world. But as my wife always said - I haven't mastered 1/10 of the potential of these gear...:-(
I got my M3 first when I was in London once..traded my Voltlander in. My double stroke was an earlier model. The film press was made of glass as they were not certain of static electricity (the same reason for a double stroke winding mechanism). Then I start to collect my lenses.
The ones I wish to add is the 35/f2 ASPH, 50/f2.8 collapsible. The super-angulon 21/f3.4 will be perfect but just way too expensive. And 90/f2 is just too heavy to carry around. I still like my 28/f2.8 than 28/f2. No reason but just personal love...:-)
yukclee
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203.xxx.xxx.140
2005-09-30 20:36
[#27] Leica Club    
Folks please complete the list.

1.Pang : M6 (35/F2 and 50/F2)

2.Stanfield: M4P (was)

3.Rayan: FZ-10

4.Yukclee: M3 DS + M6,
Lenses:50/F2,28/F2.8,35/F2,90/F2.8

5.And.t: M4+M6TTL+R6.2,
Lenses: M35/1.4,M50/F2,R24/F2.4,R35/2,R100/F2.8 marco

6.2A3: M6TTL (what lenses)

-to be cont'l by the new members-
M6
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222.xxx.xxx.76
2005-09-30 21:01
[#28] Leica Club    
Folks please complete the list.

1.Pang : M6 (35/F2 and 50/F2)

2.Stanfield: M4P (was)

3.Rayan: FZ-10

4.Yukclee: M3 DS + M6,
Lenses:50/F2,28/F2.8,35/F2,90/F2.8

5.And.t: M4+M6TTL+R6.2,
Lenses: M35/1.4,M50/F2,R24/F2.4,R35/2,R100/F2.8 marco

6.2A3: M6TTL (what lenses)

7.xellshooter: Fx-7(ex-user),Lx-1(current). Leica manual film fans. hope one day I get one ^^ cheers

===========================================

-to be cont'l by the new members-
xellshooter
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219.xxx.xxx.5
2005-09-30 21:07
[#29] Leica Club    
My M6

M6
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222.xxx.xxx.76
2005-09-30 21:08
[#30] Leica Club    
Folks please complete the list.

1.Pang : M6 (35/F2 and 50/F2)

2.Stanfield: M4P (was)

3.Rayan: FZ-10

4.Yukclee: M3 DS + M6,
Lenses:50/F2,28/F2.8,35/F2,90/F2.8

5.And.t: M4+M6TTL+R6.2,
Lenses: M35/1.4,M50/F2,R24/F2.4,R35/2,R100/F2.8 marco

6.2A3: M6TTL (what lenses)

7.xellshooter: Fx-7(ex-user),Lx-1(current). Leica manual film fans. hope one day I get one ^^ cheers

===========================================

-to be cont'l by the new members- xellshooter
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219.xxx.xxx.5
05-09-30 21:07

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Folks please complete the list.

1.Pang : M6 (35/F2 and 50/F2)

2.Stanfield: M4P (was)

3.Rayan: FZ-10

4.Yukclee: M3 DS + M6,
Lenses:50/F2,28/F2.8,35/F2,90/F2.8

5.And.t: M4+M6TTL+R6.2,
Lenses: M35/1.4,M50/F2,R24/F2.4,R35/2,R100/F2.8 marco

6.2A3: M6TTL (what lenses)

7.lo5boy: M6TTL + 50mm/F2.8 +35mm/F2 (looking for a LX1, leica? panasonic?
lo5boy
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202.xxx.xxx.27
2005-09-30 22:09
[#31] Leica Club    
Folks please complete the list.

1.Pang : M6 (35/F2 and 50/F2)

2.Stanfield: M4P (was)

3.Rayan: FZ-10

4.Yukclee: M3 DS + M6,
Lenses:50/F2,28/F2.8,35/F2,90/F2.8

5.And.t: M4+M6TTL+R6.2,
Lenses: M35/1.4,M50/F2,R24/F2.4,R35/2,R100/F2.8 marco

6.2A3: M6TTL (what lenses)

7.xellshooter: Fx-7(ex-user),Lx-1(current). Leica manual film fans. hope one day I get one ^^ cheers

8.lo5boy: M6TTL + 50mm/F2.8 +35mm/F2 (looking for a LX1, leica? panasonic?
M6
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222.xxx.xxx.76
2005-09-30 22:16
[#32] Leica Club    

M6 Pang,

Your M35 with goggle, if not the summilux then must be the famous 8 elements summicron, Japanese are dead for this one ! I have seen one, a M4 version in central asked asked for HK$ 17,000 a year ago and gone within few days. Can you share some pic. and the taste of this lens.
and.t
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219.xxx.xxx.105
2005-09-30 23:40
[#33] Leica Club    
SWC hing,


My one is the latest summilux M, new type design with computer aid. Not the collectable two asap elements one.

May be it is too late to say it, the early 35 lux does carry traditonal Leica wide angle signature that still beloved by some fans, yes Japanese. The central is very eye pleasing even the the outer edge is kind of soft as wide open, very magazine picture feel when you do enlargement, B/W film is excellent, does has it own taste. I didn't own the lens before just read someone's photos and texts and bxll Shxting here.

If you perfer the picture with the entire flat sharpness at wide open, the latest 35 cron ASPH is the best even compare with the lux taking at same f2 !!

Erwin Puts wrote a detailed paper to discussed about all Leica lens range "http://www.leica-camera.com/imperia/md/content/pdf/msystem/49.pdf"
Don't sleep, do study it, very helpful, even it is an offical infomation.
and.t
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219.xxx.xxx.105
2005-10-01 00:07
[#34] Leica Club    

Damn it ! I forget "sugizo" Hing, sorry about that !!



Folks please complete the list.

1.Pang : M6 (35/F2 and 50/F2)

2.Stanfield: M4P (was)

3.Rayan: FZ-10

4.Yukclee: M3 DS + M6,
Lenses:50/F2,28/F2.8,35/F2,90/F2.8

5.And.t: M4+M6TTL+R6.2,
Lenses: M35/1.4,M50/F2,R24/F2.4,R35/2,R100/F2.8 marco

6.2A3: M6TTL (what lenses)

7.xellshooter: Fx-7(ex-user),Lx-1(current). Leica manual film fans. hope one day I get one ^^ cheers

8.lo5boy: M6TTL + 50mm/F2.8 +35mm/F2 (looking for a LX1, leica? panasonic?

9.sugizo: Minilux
and.t
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219.xxx.xxx.9
2005-10-01 01:09
[#35] Leica Club    
and.t hing,

Good morning.

Cannot access the link recommended. Please advise once more.

You mentioned that your Summilux is the latest version, do you mean the ASPH or the aspherical version produced between 1989-1994.

Those i had were of 1961 design. They had a softar effect when fully opened. Stopping down to f.2 improved a lot, but couldn't match the Summicron performance of the same production period. IMHO the Summilux M series lenes were inferior to the Summicron Ms until they made the f1.4/75mm in 1980 and redesigned the f1.4/35mm by applying aspherical lens elements. I prefer F.2 series for M, but F1.4 series for R. My personal taste only.
swc
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61.xxx.xxx.31
2005-10-01 10:58
[#36] Leica Club    
SWC,

Don't know why the link I paste but cant't get thru ! Use the old fashion way:
Kick in > Leica Carmera AG> "choice English"> M system> Lenses> Product information> lower right corner does show a list> Book:M-Lense then down load it, very useful !!

If the one you sole is the M4 version, very higher chance a chrome finish German made. If in NM condition, it means no goggle attached, you must make money on it, right?

General believe that summicron is superior then summilux. Noctilux is even worst according to your standard. The old version 50 F 1.2 is no better than the new 50 F 1, but you know what F1.2 the price is still high. So price is not reflecting the performance in the Leica world. For good value for money, a real photo shooter would consider the summicron, and should be the new deisgn ones, to avoid paying high for so called "collectable and rare to find" items.

Erwin did the comparison with Super-angulon, elmarit and elmarit ASPH, see the pages the result may not agreed by the old Leica fans, are you ...........!

My ASPH version is not the two aspherical elements as you menetioned, that also become the collectable items, guess they are less than 1000 units producted. I bought around yr 2000. A good lens but heavy. 50 F2 cron is more convenient for travel.

My personal experience, R is no way to play better game as M, when every one say that R 50/1.4 should be the best standard lens avaiable on earth (< not my opinion ? I guess contax 50/1.7 cheap and outstanding, damn japanese can made should dame good lens), then M is launched a 50/F1.4 ASPH ??? But no chance to own one, I am poor !!

and.t
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219.xxx.xxx.87
2005-10-01 11:35
[#37] Leica Club    
>So price is not reflecting the performance in the Leica world. For good value for money, a real photo shooter would consider the summicron, and should be the new deisgn ones, to avoid paying high for so called "collectable and rare to find" items< Can't agree more.

"collectable and rare to find" is only the term used by 2nd hand traders to push up the price for the stocks they have on hand. It is a matter of 心4好, if someone really likes to own or acquire a rare item, he deserves to pay a premium.

Although my M & R lenses were bought mostly in the late 1980's, I am a beliver of newer designs must be superior in performance to older ones, save for the construction and bulit quality. The latest version of Leica lens I bought is the f1.4/35mm ASPH that came together with the set "A Piece of Leica" on sale in 1996.

I do have the S-Angulon f3.4/21mm which is purely a collector's item. Performancewise, it is inferior to the Elmarit, not to mention the Elmarit ASPH.

For me the best standard lens i have encountered is the Canon FD f1.2 Aspherical. It was a far more advanced design than other makes of its age, and the performance at f1.2 was amazing. High contract, good color rendition and sharpness. The Summilux M is way behind. Its a pity that Canon stopped making this lenses but introduced a EF f1/50mm for the EOS which is also not in the same league. This may be the occasion that we can say older lenes are better than the newer designs.
swc
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61.xxx.xxx.31
2005-10-01 14:23
[#38] Leica Club    
and.t hing

Forgot to mention i got thru to the Leica site, very interesting and useful.

Thanks a lot.
swc
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61.xxx.xxx.31
2005-10-01 14:33
[#39] Leica Club    
and.t hing,

Nevermind
sugizo
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218.xxx.xxx.10
2005-10-01 14:37
[#40] Leica Club    
1.Pang : M6 (35/F2 and 50/F2)

2.Stanfield: M4P (was)

3.Rayan: FZ-10

4.Yukclee: M3 DS + M6,
Lenses:50/F2,28/F2.8,35/F2,90/F2.8

5.And.t: M4+M6TTL+R6.2,
Lenses: M35/1.4,M50/F2,R24/F2.4,R35/2,R100/F2.8 marco

6.2A3: M6TTL (what lenses)

7.xellshooter: Fx-7(ex-user),Lx-1(current). Leica manual film fans. hope one day I get one ^^ cheers

8.lo5boy: M6TTL + 50mm/F2.8 +35mm/F2 (looking for a LX1, leica? panasonic?

9.sugizo: Minilux zoom with flash light set.

sugizo
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218.xxx.xxx.10
2005-10-01 14:38
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