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[#5807] Leica Club    
Actually, with smartphones being so powerful and compact, a lot of stunning photos and images can be seen in many media. Traditional or professional gear seems overkill most of the time. Of course the difference is when you have to enlarge to full size but how often do we need to do that.

Drone cameras are so popular now and it is another art and skills.

SL2 + 75 Noct









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2022-11-19 11:06
[#5808] Leica Club    
agreed, smartphones are very convenient and it's hard to find compact cameras in the market now, with the exceptions of like Ricoh GR series which is very handy and good for street photo.

drone cameras are getting popular in recent years and, perhaps due to safety issues, there are more restrictions on flying drone in some countries like Iceland.



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2022-11-19 16:45
[#5809] Leica Club    
There are millions of cameras made in the past, trillions of photos captured, they are all past of memories, culture and civilisation. We should embrace and contribute, support and care about this hobby, knowledge, skills, art or science.

What Leica has done for us is exactly that, bringing the past, present and future together, connecting the whole world to one thing - photography!









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2022-11-20 04:59
[#5810] Leica Club    
https://hypebeast.com/2022/11/xiaomi-leica-concept-phone-m-lens

Interesting Xiaomi! It costs you a lot if you drop your phone!
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2022-11-21 21:24
[#5811] Leica Club    
Thanatos.

How is your 35 APO, do you like it?

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2022-11-23 16:30
[#5812] Leica Club    
JC

Everything is perfect except bokeh balls show signs of onion rings, which is indicative of mould (pressed) instead of ground aspherical surfaces

Thanatos
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2022-11-23 16:50
[#5813] Leica Club    
Thanatos,

Did not really know the difference but I guess it matters.

I tried the 35 APO and it is quite amazing to focus a lot closer than the standard M lenses.



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2022-11-23 18:52
[#5814] Leica Club    
Testing M10P + 35 APO







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2022-11-25 08:01
[#5815] Leica Club    
Tried this before.









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2022-11-25 17:55
[#5816] Leica Club    
Tried this one as well but now being discontinued.

I loved this lens, solid, sharp wide open and quite fast.

Pictures not in focus and in focus..............something I learn from my son.

All taken @f1.7

















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2022-11-25 20:38
[#5817] Leica Club    
JC,

Seems like you cannot escape from the inevitable.

If this eventuality comes true, what logically follows must be an M11.

M11 is made for APO lenses, and not vice versa.
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2022-11-25 20:47
[#5818] Leica Club    
>>> M11 is made for APO lenses, and not vice versa.

Interesting! How about all the APO's before, like 50APO? I have been told that the 50APO was designed based on the M9, which sounds logical as M9 was the only choice Leica had. However does it mean that 50APO should not be used with M11?

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2022-11-26 04:36
[#5819] Leica Club    
M11 or M11P/R/M, they will keep coming, it will be plenty of time to wait for the latest and greatest camera bodies. Since I still have my M9/M10P and know them quite well, why not explore them to find out more. It will be interesting to compare the 35 APO to 35 8E, for example.









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2022-11-26 08:39
[#5820] Leica Club    
JC,

M APO 50 was designed for M9 monochrome. Peter Karbe at that time clearly stated that we needed the resolution of M9 monochrome to fully appreciate the power of that lens, and that an ordinary M9 with a color sensor would fail to do so.

Color sensors have a lower effective resolution when compared with their monochrome counterparts.

Lens design (especially APO lenses) has WAY superseded sensor technology in terms of resolution, and a sensor with a higher resolution is always welcomed.

In the past I do not believe in high resolution. Especially when pixel pitch is involved in the equation. I always thought that a higher resolution would result in a worse low light performance. Something equivalent to engineering "trade-offs". In reality, technology evolves and we can have a higher resolution sensor with a better low light performance. Technological advancements have actually broken the barrier of engineering "trade-offs".

Personally there is one more element why I prefer M11 to my previous M10P----color tone and saturation.
Thanatos
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2022-11-26 09:52
[#5821] Leica Club    
Thanatos,

What caught my attention about the 35 APO is the 300mm focus distance and the compact size. APO is of course important but secondary. For most of my shots, I am after moments, compositions and colour render.

My SL2 + 35 APO is also a great combo and produces some beautiful images that I am happy with.



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2022-11-26 11:00
[#5822] Leica Club    
In that case your 11663 plus a macro adapter could fulfil your requirements

Thanatos
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2022-11-26 13:09
[#5823] Leica Club    
Yeah, they could work but not as flexible as the 35 APO. I have tried different macro adaptors including the ELPROE52. Whilst they give excellent effect on very close macro but 35APO has given me a different perspective even only after the first week of use.

Actually 50 1.2 with Novoflex LEM/VIS II are quite good, better than 35mm.

Having said that, you are absolutely right that we might need only a lens or 2, the rest are just surplus. :-)

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2022-11-26 13:16
[#5824] Leica Club    
Thanatos,

Love to see more from your M11 + 35 APO. How about other APOs with M11, 50 APO in particular?
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2022-11-27 04:05
[#5825] Leica Club    
JC

Will do so after I have enough fun with my son's Nikon Z9-----its autofocus and animal eye tracking abilities are so powerful that make it rather indispensable.
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2022-11-27 11:19
[#5826] Leica Club    
Thanatos,

Have you tried the SL2/S and SL lenses? They are autofocus too.

With the perfect combo of M11 and 35 APO, you still find it dispensable. Come on, stay focus! ;-)
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2022-11-28 05:00
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