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[#48] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
If what you said is correct.
"2005年復刻版: 無點調校過, 但明顯因母帶狀態有衰減而出現瑕疪, "
Then AMCD team really know their work. they for sure correct the error that people has done post 85. I believe only 85TO is original master.
In HK music industry we truely need people that still have heart and passion to take the lead and time to do things right.
We have to give AMCD team real credit to correct such error and not just pushing button like other so call re-mastering.

All the end of the day, we want to enjoy better music.
yogurt27
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[#47] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
聯合廣場, 幾個月前見過$40.
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2011-05-25 22:43
[#46] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
請問有冇c-hing知道"羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳"黑膠大概幾錢?
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2011-05-25 22:41
[#45] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
Dear Salmon

Many thanks for the explanation!
faimiu
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2011-05-25 09:28
[#44] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
Faimiu CHing,

I can try to answer that question for Yogurt.
Since i have the K-03 i think it should work the same way.

When the CDs is playing Analog and Digital both work as output mode. The input mode is disable.
If you have select the input mode to use outside source.

Hope this help.
salmon
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2011-05-25 06:36
[#43] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
yourt27 ching:
我諗唔係AMCD corrected the problem, 可能AMCD用比較早期既digital source去做後期remastering, 所以無左後期母帶衰老帶出既問題. 你聽返1985年TO版都無事架.

faimiu ching:
聽你地既講法, 小弟想試試用Toslink入24-bit DAC來decode AMCD, 睇吓有無驚喜.

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[#42] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
Dear Yogurt

Can you do me a flavour? Need your help for a crazy experiement.

K-01 is an all-in CD player. Is it possible to connect an Optical link (Toslink, ST LInk or any) from the digital out and then back to the Digital-In of the player? Try to playback with AMCD and share your observation...

Many thanks!

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[#41] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
Dear Yogurt

You are correct. It is a matching problem - related with tracking, jitter control and errors handling for the encode/decode algorithms

So don't throw away the old CDP, as it is likely to work happily with ~20% of the CDs in the market.

The takeaway from this experiment - If a CD sounds terrible, there are 2 reasons
a) the CD is of bad quality
b) there are some tuning problems with the playback system and setup

It is a 50/50 situation. If we are willing to spend some time to consider both possbilities, then there is better chance to access to more fascinating music listening experience.

Cheers!

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[#40] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
just an update, I just try my K-01 with my TO 1A version. and AMCD of 射鵰英雄傳. and AMCD total KO TO1A version of far.
And i also try my 5 years old SA-60. TO1A version sound better then AMCD version.

So this might be the newer CDP has better match with AMCD new technology.
This might not be true. just my personal result.

Happy Listening.
yogurt27
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2011-05-14 05:45
[#39] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
Just to adding a bit detail to ST-link digital and Glass toslink.
EMM Labs is a good one to try.
yogurt27
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2011-05-14 05:38
[#38] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
Dear Ken

Glad to know u can have fun with the Toslink, as it will anyway do no harm for experimenting.

With this same setup, also suggest you can try listening to the orignal CinePolly,CBS Sony and Wagner recordings in the 80's and 90's (George Lam, Sally, Beyond etc....), and also try the original PolyGram (Alan Tam, Jacky Cheung, Sam Hui, Paula Tsui etc) with the 180 degrees inverted phase.

Again there is no right or wrong as you mentioned the 2 CD players may be of different grades. I just want to add another dimension for listening experiences...


faimiu
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[#37] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
faimiu ching,
Thx!
其實小弟仲有另一部low-end少少既CD player, 用Toslink駁DAC出聲. 今晚可以再試埋.
kencheung810
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2011-05-13 16:49
[#36] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
Dear Ken

Understand your observations, and i try to add a bit of insight in layman terms.

The 1st release orignal version, and the TO version are what we called 16-bit or 20 bit version. They are very good recordings .

The AMCD is also an excellent reproduction, but encode/decode mechanism is not 16 bit nor 20 bit.

The tricky part is that a CD player that playback the original or TO release well may not necessarily playback the AMCD well. It is not related to the quality of the CD player, but the way jittering and errors are handled and corrected.

It is not easy to explain the empirical evidence that different CDs may require at least 2 different kinds of CD players for best performances. Improper matching could result in the booming, blurrness, harshness, and poor imaging that you mentioned.

So enjoy the TO release as it best suits your home system. Just for fun, you may also try using the D-777 to playback the HMCD in the home system, and it may bring an interesting experience.

Cheers!



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[#35] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
剛比較過射鵰AMCD, 85年TO版 同埋 2005年復刻版.
AMCD: 高低音有加強過, 口水聲明顯浮現, 低頻欠清晰, 高頻有點刺耳, 整體音色有點濛和生硬, 欠動態.
2005年復刻版: 無點調校過, 但明顯因母帶狀態有衰減而出現瑕疪, 整體音色有D硬, 正衡度可以.
85年TO版: 母帶狀態好, 動態勝過其他版本. 比LP薄聲, 但平衡度明顯KO AMCD.
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[#34] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
我無XRCD版. 不過剛在公司用Sony Discman D-777 line out到公司的HP ZR22w LCD 顯示器喇叭聽AMCD版, 出奇地用咁細既喇叭出到好多野! 以咁既配置聽呢隻AMCD算係有驚喜. 雖然估計返到屋企用大機聽會炒耳, 但都會試試再上黎post講番個結果.

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[#33] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
射鵰英雄傳AMCD Vs 射鵰英雄傳XRCD 誰勝誰負呢?


amcd
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2011-05-12 20:01
[#32] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
My experience The original CD release, and the MasterSonic release are of very good quality. Congragulations if you have it!

AMCD for this 射鵰 worth the premium $$ if you want to try the extreme.

Small tips for AMCD if you have separate CD Transport and DAC - try to get a Toslink or ST-link digital interconnect that may give a small surprise . Enjoy!

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[#31] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
Sorry Kencheung810 CHing.
Oh No. HDCD"有D歌有甩磁粉既情況" Yes, I know Track 6 @00:56, 1:09 and 1:17 I compared with both AMCD, XRCD and Black in Black version i got. Both BK to BK and XRCD happened the same way. However, AMCD version is perfect. I don't know how they do that. But I must say they know the error and know how to get it right that include alot of "know how" Perfect Job.
Pay a bit more is ok. Because i know they care of the quality. At least i can enjoy the complete song and not the inferior.

Just my2cents
yogurt27
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2011-05-12 05:34
[#30] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
剛剛拎番隻至普通既復刻版出黎聽, 發覺居然係HDCD格式!! 不過聽得出當時轉HDCD時係用模擬母帶, 因為有D歌有甩磁粉既情況. 然而呢隻至普通復刻版反而係無乜調過聲, 無驚喜, 但至少唔偏聲, 只係$42. 要俾多$110買HIFI聲碟, 我就一定唔會囉.

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[#29] 華納、EMI金唱片復刻王系列(羅文、甄妮 - 射鵰英雄傳)    
AMCD win XRCD by far.
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