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[#1] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
Saw a used AudioNote Ongaku amp in Tim Chi over the weekend. I am in so much pain! It was my dream amp since I started w/ this hobby. Having seen Kondo-sama in person, and listening to his personal creation recreating music even though he no longer with us is such an emotional experience.

I would love to take it home, but w/ 2 children at home, putting a 211 amp there will be reckless.

I wonder if previous/current owners of Ongaku can share their experience w/ this lengendary amp.... just so that maybe my pain will be lessened :-)


MatthewC
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2006-08-28 22:51
[#2] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
買來讓大家分享下個種貴氣

Garrard
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2006-08-28 22:56
[#3] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
What is the selling price?
mda
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219.xxx.xxx.113
2006-08-28 23:01
[#4] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
2XX,XXX ?
Garrard
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2006-08-28 23:09
[#5] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
"硬膠鼓" - my dream gear....
kiukate
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219.xxx.xxx.95
2006-08-28 23:11
[#6] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
I listened to the Ongaku at Timchi on last saturday, with EMMLabs transport/DA as front end, it seemed to be without pre-amp, and Ongaku was pushing SF Stradivari Homage. The combo sounds very 從容, piano playback with 貴氣, which is more than realistic ...
jaytee
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219.xxx.xxx.243
2006-08-28 23:19
[#7] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
Ongaku = 漢字系"音樂", 正確讀法應是On-A-ku, 無g音

(我)識黎有鬼用, 都無水買
HelloMorning
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2006-08-28 23:19
[#8] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
早幾年好在未有碌咭分24期

唔係2xx,000都照碌

聽過呢部就知幾多watt輸,咩spec.都無意義

純粹質素

科x都要十幾萬,呢部就抵到爛
Garrard
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2006-08-28 23:45
[#9] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
聽過呢部機就知幾多watt輸出,咩spec.都無意義

Garrard
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2006-08-28 23:46
[#10] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
Any other brother one w/ long term ownership experience? When I first started, I started w/ AN UK stuff while dreaming about ANJ Ongaku or Kassai. But after a while, got tired of the AN UK sound. But the ANJ stuff sounds quite different, a lot faster and more powerful sounding than the AN UK stuff (which isn't saying much). But long-term ownership of such iconoclastic amp may be a different story.

Can someone big-brother share their Ongaku ownership experience?

Thanks!
MatthewC
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2006-08-29 11:02
[#11] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
MatthewC Hing, I own a Kondo Ongaku,and I have listened to Kondo San's system in his factory in Japan, it's one of my best hi-fi experience for the past 30 years,but sadly put, the Ongaku in my place does not sound close to the fabulous Kondo demonstration.
ptsang
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2006-08-29 16:01
[#12] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
ptsang-hing,

Were you using horns? What speaker were you using?

My experience w/ SET amps so far has been that if you are not using horns, SET amp will only sound sweet and lush, but lacks true dynamics.
MatthewC
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2006-08-29 17:41
[#13] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
如果部機冇被改過就 GO FOR IT la!


Hamsup
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2006-08-29 20:33
[#14] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
>But the ANJ stuff sounds quite different, a lot faster and more powerful sounding than the AN UK stuff

That's mainly due to the difference in coupling capacitors.

ANUK silver foil cap is oil filled whereas ANJ caps are not. Oil filled caps can never have the speed of non oil-filled caps. I did some comparison between ANUK, Jensen, Mcap, Kondo silver foil caps and they all sound different.
F2aYeung
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2006-08-29 22:00
[#15] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
MatthewC Hing, I'm using a pair of Scotland made speakers, recommanded by ANJ for owners of Kondo amps if you do own a pair of Kondo speakers.FYI, several years ago,Kondo San did make to order Kondo speakers for Kondo amp owners(not horn type).After listening to the Kondo speakers once in the AN factory,I urge, almost beg ANJ to make a pair for me,they say they have no time to make speakers and ask me to wait, they'll let me know when they commence to accept orders. That was about 2 years ago. Since Kondo San has passed away, I don't know whether ANJ will make Kondo speakers any more. By the way, if you decide to buy the 2nd- hand Ongaku, pls let me know. Don't need to worry about the condition of the amp, all Kondo products carry a life-long guarentee, of course if they are properly used and handled.
ptsang
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2006-08-30 12:39
[#16] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
That Kondo speakers you mentioned are the Ruthy line of speakers?

I am still sitting on the fence about it as I do have young children at home and having a 1000+ V amp at home is, well, dangerous.

Plus, I am not sure about long-term ownership of such idiosyncrtic piece. I can live with equipments w/ character (like Shindo, had it for 6+ years), but not overwhelmingly colored in one way or the other (like AN UK). Wish I can have in-home audition.... but this being HK, will be tough......
MatthewC
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2006-08-30 13:03
[#17] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
Matthew hing,
Where is the AudioNote Ongaku located in Tim Chi?
I'm interested to hv an audition this week.
thx
sugar22
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2006-08-30 13:52
[#18] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
8/F
PL96
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2006-08-30 18:10
[#19] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
Thanks..
sugar22
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2006-08-31 09:27
[#20] AudioNote Ongaku - I am in pain!    
These 'itchy' items...hmmm
I bought an Audio Note DAC5 Signature once directly from PQ of AN UK.
The price was insanely high. I bought it, and did not enjoy it at all.
AN sound is completely controlled (and altered) by their famous transformers. They always sound very 'comfortable', but in the long run, u will grow out of it, especially if you listen to more then just 'simple' music.
photos of muy DAC5S, click the link
http://photos.lam.ws/gallery/1291388
WSLam
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2006-08-31 15:38
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