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[#281] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Hi Alan, in your opinion, which poweramp match well with 80c (to drive Spendor S100 ~89db). I like 80C+Pilot232 but found a little underpower & low gain from 80C. Am looking for higher power amp with good tonality/musicality. thks.
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If you like for slightly higher power Pilot amp, than I would suggest you to try Pilot SA-264. Honestly, Pilot SA-232 has better tone quality than Pilot SA-264, but Pilot SA-264 has better body, bass and driving power for sure...!
Pilotrol
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2006-08-01 08:32
[#282] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
How does 80az sound compare with Fisher 500c ?
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Fisher 80AZ is a mono power amp with EL37 PP at 30 watt output, Fisher 500C is a stereo receiver. Fisher 80AZ has much better body and details than Fisher 500C.
Pilotrol
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2006-08-01 08:36
[#283] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Just got the 70RT tunner yesterday, quite surprise that it used with Bumble Bee cap and quite new inside. When I turn it on, the receiving power is counldn't believe. A normal wire be antenna that's enough. The control power of the preamp section also very well. 9 sections can be used, loudness, high and low tone, volumn control.

But it's really quite different with Pilot tunner as Alan mention before. Pilot will find lots of emotion and Fisher come with high analysis power.

Finially, last night radio news reporting become the most attractive programme for me. haha

Just me little report sharing.
Taimonsing
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2006-08-01 09:46
[#284] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Actually, Fisher 50-R, 70-RT, FM-80 and FM-90X also has extremely sensitive but stable FM section. You can easily capture FM stations from mainland even using low cost antenna in Hong Kong Island. All of Fisher tuner has very sweet, fine details and very transparent tone, but also with rich and liquid body of mid and mid-high as well. Fisher tuner also sound very realistic specially when you listen to the news report at RTHK 4, but sorry to say that it is not as relax, warm, smooth and mellow as early period Pilot tuners in my understanding.
Pilotrol
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2006-08-01 10:06
[#285] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
yup..it's really hard to find early version of Pilot tunner even on net...However, I find there are 2 piece in Tak Fat with perfect condition. Don't know how much of them?
Taimonsing
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2006-08-01 10:13
[#286] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Dear Taimonsing

Not sure...! However, I'm sure the Pilot tuner in perfect condition at the display window of Chu Kee (basement) is not for sale, because I gave that Pilot tuner to Sai Chu few years ago as a gift...!

Best regards
Alan

Pilotrol
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2006-08-01 10:24
[#287] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
oh...too bad...one target die already~~ but it's really new...don't believe how you can get it.
Taimonsing
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2006-08-01 10:45
[#288] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Dear Taimonshing

Don't waste your money and time if you don't have a clear direction at all...! Just ask yourself what is charcteristics of sound you like the most before you buy...!

Hence - hi-fi skill and sense usually is more important than the gear alone. The skill of a good pianoist will not affect by the quality of piano at all...! He still can play good music on low cost piano or expensive grand piano as well! Just my 2 cents.

Best regards
Alan
Pilotrol
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2006-08-01 14:51
[#289] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
oh...too bad...one target die already~~ but it's really new...don't believe how you can get it.
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The Pilot tuner in Sai Chu's display window is a new old stock with original carton as well! I bought this piece with Pilot AA-904 from a collector in U.S. who passed away about 7 - 8 years ago.
Pilotrol
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2006-08-01 14:54
[#290] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Alan, thanks for your tips....in my mind, I already have an answer after try differnt type of good stuff...I like the transparent sound rather than moody sound in long time listening...I feel more relax and confortable about it...of course different ppl different taste....I agree and believe your way....for me I buy fisher more than pilot...so I chose already,,,however, both also beauty as a art piece which is valeable to own if you have money and space...haha
Taimonsing
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2006-08-01 15:12
[#291] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Agree!
Pilotrol
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2006-08-01 15:52
[#292] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Honestly, lost in the hi-fi jungle is the most painful lesson but wasting your time and money for nothing. That’s why I always believe clear direction is important in hi-fi paths of individual audiophile.

Hi-fi is playing you if you are lack of direction in your hi-fi path. The other way around, you are playing your hi-fi if you have a clear direction on your hi-fi path. Got it?
Pilotrol
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2006-08-01 16:03
[#293] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Master Alan,
Painful lesson means spending countless money but collecting a heap of rubbish?
What an educating wisdom like the Ming Dynasty's 3 books(喻世明言、警世通言、醒世恆言)!!!
ck2005
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2006-08-01 17:35
[#294] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Fisher 80AZ is a mono power amp with EL37 PP at 30 watt output, Fisher 500C is a stereo receiver. Fisher 80AZ has much better body and details than Fisher 500C.
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Hi Alan,
Thanks for your instruction ,
As I know 80az and 500c also same are pp amp. after watch in a date book ,but the tubes are difference 80az uses el37 and 500c uses 7591 what's the sound difference between.
thanks
老友
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2006-08-02 16:58
[#295] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
The basic different is the output section of Fisher 80AZ is very similar to Quad II, but the EL37 made by Mullard for FIsher is far better tone quality and power than 7591.
Pilotrol
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2006-08-02 17:06
[#296] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Pilot 260 . Sound fantastic. Very deep base.

Blue-Ray
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2006-08-03 11:53
[#297] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Restoration, long way to go.

Blue-Ray
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2006-08-03 11:54
[#298] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Dear Ray

To avoid down grade of tone! Please keep the original cap...!

Best regards
Alan
Pilotrol
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2006-08-04 09:40
[#299] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
Hi Pilotrol,
Thanks for your advice. I was thinking to repalce the Pyramid 0.1 with Vitamin Q, is it a bad idea? Alos, the original Astron Can capacitors are different to get NOS.


Blue-Ray
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2006-08-04 10:15
[#300] Fisher and Pilot 古董同好會 ~ Vintage Amplifier    
one more

Blue-Ray
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2006-08-04 10:16
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