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[#321] 理論與現實    
RE: bambino,
Surely I will buy a SSD drive later when the price dropped. At this moment, I set 800MB in foobar for full file buffering.

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athensc
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2010-03-17 15:27
[#322] 理論與現實    
any c hing try to connect int202 to weiss dac2?
batmanames04
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2010-03-17 16:22
[#323] 理論與現實    
batman hing, remembered you also a user of the Yamaha HDD transport, may I ask how you compare it with CAS?
ninekit
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2010-03-17 16:46
[#324] 最蠢的CAS    
請問有無師兄知道WEISS DAC202 出了沒有?
因為原先聽說是一月推出,等現在都三月了,好像還未見市面有售.....
紅色小人
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2010-03-17 16:56
[#325] 最蠢的CAS    
你应该问 kent poon
hkghuman
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2010-03-17 19:05
[#326] 最蠢的CAS    
batman hing, remembered you also a user of the Yamaha HDD transport, may I ask how you compare it with CAS?

seems yamaha hdd transport better than cas
because 1 master clk source based on 44.1khz
2 no cpu noise like computer(use a simple mpu only )
3 no software interference

the above are my personal opinion only
batmanames04
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2010-03-17 22:45
[#327] 最蠢的CAS    
因為 Real Time Protocol 的 error correction 的空間很少甚至沒有. 例如看 Digital TV 的起格現象即為 error. 相比之下, 非 real time 的 protocol 如 TCP/IP 的 7 個 level 起碼有 4 層可以做 error correction.

飛機, 導彈, 同穿梭機都係 real time, 以前我地讀書果陣聽到 "Real Time Protocol" 都會肅然起敬.

如果 Weiss 能做到 Firewire 都出到 jitter free "換線無分別", Kent 兄可否介紹下 Weiss 個 firewire protocol stack 點樣 work , 點樣做到 "換線無分別". 等我地學下野. 先謝!


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2010-03-18 10:06
[#328] 最蠢的CAS    
Thank you batman hing, is these technical advantages also translating in more superior sonic performance in practical use?
ninekit
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2010-03-18 10:22
[#329] 最蠢的CAS    
cas system

1 use lower cpu clock (PREVENT HIGH FEQUENCY NOISE LEAKAGE)
2 LINEAR POWRER SUPPLY (OR DC BATTERY SOURCE)
3 SYSTEM CLOCK BASED ON MULTIPLES OF 44.1KHZ
4 REAL TIME DATA TRANSMISION FROM PC TO DAC
5 SOLID STATE STORAGE OF CD DATA(LIKE SSD OR ELECTRONIC RAM DISK)
batmanames04
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2010-03-18 12:14
[#330] 最蠢的CAS    
1 use lower cpu clock (PREVENT HIGH FEQUENCY NOISE LEAKAGE)
2 LINEAR POWRER SUPPLY (OR DC BATTERY SOURCE)
3 SYSTEM CLOCK BASED ON MULTIPLES OF 44.1KHZ
4 REAL TIME DATA TRANSMISION FROM PC TO DAC
5 SOLID STATE STORAGE OF CD DATA(LIKE SSD OR ELECTRONIC RAM DISK)
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would it be easier to use optical isolation and put the pc away from your audio system.
Not-So-GoodSamaritan
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2010-03-18 12:22
[#331] 最蠢的CAS    
even the protocol can be realtime, the OS like Windows or OSX cannot be realtime kernel. That is why some bilieve in Linux realtime kerel will give the best sound
ackcheng
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2010-03-18 12:57
[#332] 最蠢的CAS    
would it be easier to use optical isolation and put the pc away from your audio system

there will be conversion jitter from electric energy to light energy and back to electric energy

and hard to find good opticaal receiver and transmitter in the market for toslink
batmanames04
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2010-03-18 13:15
[#333] 最蠢的CAS    
even the protocol can be realtime, the OS like Windows or OSX cannot be realtime kernel. That is why some bilieve in Linux realtime kerel will give the best sound

thanks and good information
batmanames04
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2010-03-18 13:16
[#334] 最蠢的CAS    
would it be easier to use optical isolation and put the pc away from your audio system
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i'm not thinking about toslink. if one uses say firewire, get an optical extender for firewire. althought the spec firewire does mention isolation, the effectiveness will be very much implementation specific. if we use optical to achieve galvanic isolation, the interface between the pc and firewire will only be a data transfer problem. the data transfer protocol has to be perfect othewise the hell would have broken loose long time ago.
Not-So-GoodSamaritan
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2010-03-18 14:13
[#335] 最蠢的CAS    
galvanic isolation

Shouldn't digital transformer coupling taken care of this?
ninekit
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2010-03-18 15:16
[#336] 最蠢的CAS    
Shouldn't digital transformer coupling taken care of this?
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yes. for firewire i think it specs either capacitvie or transformer isolation. most use the former though. how good? who knows but the fact that people report effects of various firewire cable does not instill much confidence.
optical extender on the other hand can physically relocate the pc to somewhere else. this solves the mechanical and electrical noise in one go. damn they are expensive. well, kind of.
Not-So-GoodSamaritan
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2010-03-18 15:36
[#337] 最蠢的CAS    
Harmonic Technology has products that utilize this optico-decoupling principle. However, not for CAS firewire or USB cable yet.
http://www.harmonictech.com/products/photon/index.html
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2010-03-18 16:12
[#338] 最蠢的CAS    
odyssey audio hk havehttp://www.odysseyaudiohk.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1215624423 used it before for usb isolation

but no longer produced
batmanames04
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2010-03-18 16:22
[#339] 最蠢的CAS    
Harmonic Technology has products that utilize this optico-decoupling principle. However, not for CAS firewire or USB cable yet.
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analogue level is easy and probably not necessary nor desirable.
Not-So-GoodSamaritan
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2010-03-18 16:22
[#340] 最蠢的CAS    
digital transformer is good enough for isolation

no matter optical extender or toslink you need a very good electro optical converter, otherwise conversion jitter would be a problem
batmanames04
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2010-03-18 16:26
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