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[#7324] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
I shall be the 跑腿, so one more can be accommodated.

NOT more than 10
------------------------

(1) John keung
(2)
(3) pang
(4) David (dd)
(5) Tim
(6) Alan
(7) Jeremy
(8) Alvin (Confirm later)
(9) John Ling


Pre amplifiers
-----------------------------
Group ONE (all mono preamps)

(1) Marantz ONE (Jeremy's)
vs
(2) Fisher 50C "Good All" 版 (NEC - pls. bring your 50Cs to come, OK?
vs
(3) EICO HF-65
vs
(4) Fisher 80C
--------------------------

Group Two (all stereo preamps)

(a) Marantz 7 (Colin brings in or??
vs
(b) Fisher 400CX-2 (Tim brings in or??)
vs
(c) Fisher 400CX (mine)
vs
(d) HH Scott LC-21 (mine)
vs
(e) EICO HF-85 (mine)
vs
(f) Radford SC22P

How about we use same branded/typed types all through? In fact some preamps don't use the same tubes, e.g. 12AT7 in the case of 400CX, 12AU7 in the case of 80C!

If we don't use the same set of tubes (which is infeasible if not impossible) but the same branded/type of tubes, we can keep preamps all powered up. This is the only real senario when we use our preamps.

If we play each preamp for a few minutes' music only. It is possible to complete the tests in 3 hours even with 2 power amps. Some preamps, e.g. FISHERs and Marantzs, obviously have advantage over the EICOs driving the LEAK 25A.

Must use a form to write down marks or we shall have forgotten when all preamps have been tested.

Gingers
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221.xxx.xxx.109
2005-08-30 00:25
[#7325] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
We are both efficiency guys wor..^___^
------------------
DD

Yes, 手快有,手慢冇
M6
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222.xxx.xxx.162
2005-08-30 00:42
[#7326] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
I shall be the 跑腿, so one more can be accommodated.

NOT more than 10
------------------------

(1) John keung
(2) Colin (?)
(3) pang
(4) David (dd)
(5) Tim
(6) Alan
(7) Jeremy
(8) Alvin (?)
(9) John Ling
(10) NEC (?)


Pre amplifiers
-----------------------------
Group ONE (all mono preamps)

(1) Marantz ONE (Jeremy's)
vs
(2) Fisher 50C "Good All" 版 (NEC - pls. bring your 50Cs to come, OK?
vs
(3) EICO HF-65
vs
(4) Fisher 80C
--------------------------

Group Two (all stereo preamps)

(a) Marantz 7 (Colin brings in or??
vs
(b) Fisher 400CX-2 (Tim brings in or??)
vs
(c) Fisher 400CX (mine)
vs
(d) HH Scott LC-21 (mine)
vs
(e) EICO HF-85 (mine)
vs
(f) Radford SC22P

How about we use same branded/typed types all through? In fact some preamps don't use the same tubes, e.g. 12AT7 in the case of 400CX, 12AU7 in the case of 80C!

If we don't use the same set of tubes (which is infeasible if not impossible) but the same branded/type of tubes, we can keep preamps all powered up. This is the only real senario when we use our preamps.

If we play each preamp for a few minutes' music only. It is possible to complete the tests in 3 hours even with 2 power amps. Some preamps, e.g. FISHERs and Marantzs, obviously have advantage over the EICOs driving the LEAK 25A.

Must use a form to write down marks or we shall have forgotten when all preamps have been tested.
Gingers
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210.xxx.xxx.228
2005-08-30 08:37
[#7327] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Group Two (all stereo preamps)

(a) Marantz 7 (Colin brings in)
vs
(b) Fisher 400CX-2 (Tim brings in or??)
vs
(c) Fisher 400CX (mine)
vs
(d) HH Scott LC-21 (mine)
vs
(e) EICO HF-85 (mine)
vs
(f) Radford SC22P

(1) John keung
(2)
(3) pang
(4) David (dd)
(5) Tim
(6) Alan
(7) Jeremy
(8) Alvin (Confirm later)
(9) John Ling
(10) Colin
(11) Colin's friend
xwh
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218.xxx.xxx.90
2005-08-30 09:42
[#7328] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Group Two (all stereo preamps)

(a) Marantz 7 (Colin brings in)
vs
(b) Fisher 400CX-2 (Tim brings in or??)
vs
(c) Fisher 400CX (mine)
vs
(d) HH Scott LC-21 (mine)
vs
(e) EICO HF-85 (mine)
vs
(f) Radford SC22P

(1) John keung
(2) Colin
(3) pang
(4) David (dd)
(5) Tim
(6) Alan
(7) Jeremy
(8) Alvin (?)
(9) John Ling
(10) NEC (?)
(11) Colin's friend
xwh
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218.xxx.xxx.90
2005-08-30 09:55
[#7329] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Good morning! Slightly updated below.
---------------------------------------------

I shall be the 跑腿, so one more can be accommodated.

NOT more than 11
------------------------

(1) John keung
(2) Colin
(3) pang
(4) David (dd)
(5) Tim
(6) Alan
(7) Jeremy
(8) Alvin (?)
(9) John Ling
(10) NEC (?)
(11) Colin's friend

Pre amplifiers
-----------------------------
Group ONE (all mono preamps)

(1) Marantz ONE (Jeremy's)
vs
(2) Fisher 50C "Good All" 版 (NEC - pls. bring your 50Cs to come, OK?
vs
(3) EICO HF-65 (self-powered) (rcwy's)
vs
(4) Fisher 80C (modified at output coupling caps) (rcwy's)
--------------------------

Group Two (all stereo preamps)

(a) Marantz 7 (Colin brings in)
vs
(b) Fisher 400CX-2 (Tim brings in or??)
vs
(c) Fisher 400CX (12AX7 + 12AT7 version) (rcwy's)
vs
(d) HH Scott LC-21 (rcwy's)
vs
(e) EICO HF-85 (stock version) (rcwy's)
vs
(f) Radford SC22P (Tim's)

Note:

1) We shall try to use same branded/typed types TFK tubes all through - TFK 12AX7, 12AU7, 12AT7, 7247, etc. and Mullard/Amperex 6X4, 6V4, etc. rectifiers as possible.

I don't have enough TFK 12AX7 to feed all the X7 sockets and I don't have any TFK 12AT7. Brothers please help to bring in these tubes!

2) If we play each preamp for a few minutes' music only, we can complete the tests in 3 hours with 2 power amps - suggested LEAK TL/25A (125mV sensitivity) (grateful for Pang's your permission, please) and EICO HF-30 (1.1V) (more power than the Admiral EL84 pp).

3) Will use a printed form to write down marks or we shall have forgotten when all preamps have been tested.

4) BLIND test - Any brother can find two 6' (H) x 3' 大屏風 for use?

rcwy
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221.xxx.xxx.250
2005-08-30 09:58
[#7330] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Good morning! Slightly updated below.
---------------------------------------------

I shall be the 跑腿, so one more can be accommodated.

NOT more than 11
------------------------

(1) John keung
(2) Colin
(3) pang
(4) David (dd)
(5) Tim
(6) Alan
(7) Jeremy
(8) Alvin (?)
(9) John Ling
(10) NEC (?)
(11) Colin's friend

Pre amplifiers
-----------------------------
Group ONE (all mono preamps)

(1) Marantz ONE (Jeremy's)
vs
(2) Fisher 50C "Good All" 版 (NEC - pls. bring your 50Cs to come, OK?
vs
(3) EICO HF-65 (self-powered) (rcwy's)
vs
(4) Fisher 80C (modified at output coupling caps) (rcwy's)
--------------------------

Group Two (all stereo preamps)

(a) Marantz 7 (Colin brings in)
vs
(b) Fisher 400CX-2 (Tim brings in or??)
vs
(c) Fisher 400CX (12AX7 + 12AT7 version) (rcwy's)
vs
(d) HH Scott LC-21 (rcwy's)
vs
(e) EICO HF-85 (stock version) (rcwy's)
vs
(f) Radford SC22P (Tim's)

Note:

1) We shall try to use same branded/typed types TFK tubes all through - TFK 12AX7, 12AU7, 12AT7, 7247, etc. and Mullard/Amperex 6X4, 6V4, etc. rectifiers as possible.

I don't have enough TFK 12AX7 to feed all the X7 sockets and I don't have any TFK 12AT7. Brothers please help to bring in these tubes!

2) If we play each preamp for a few minutes' music only, we can complete the tests in 3 hours with 2 power amps - suggested LEAK TL/25A (125mV sensitivity) (grateful for Pang's your permission, please) and EICO HF-30 (1.1V) (more power than the Admiral EL84 pp).

3) Will use a printed form to write down marks or we shall have forgotten when all preamps have been tested.

4) BLIND test - Any brother can find two 6' (H) x 3' 大屏風 for use?


Gingers
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210.xxx.xxx.228
2005-08-30 10:31
[#7331] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
hi all, party when ?
NEC
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202.xxx.xxx.98
2005-08-30 12:19
[#7332] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
hi all, party when ?
--------------------------

This weekend at EICO Garden.

Gingers
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210.xxx.xxx.228
2005-08-30 12:30
[#7333] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Dear brothers,

As discussed with Dr. King this afternoon and thanks for his view, I suggest reducing the no. of preamps to be tested to 4 numbers in each group and we may use only one power amp (LEAK TL/25A) if time runs out unexpectedly or unexpectedly on Saturday. If time allows, we can also use a 2nd power amp (EICO HF-30) which is much lower in sensitivity, comparable to most modern tube/solid state amps.

We want an enjoyable party and chats, instead of a tough session of mechanical listen, listen, and listen tests! I propose the following list of preamps for Saturday's party:

-----------------------------
Group ONE (all mono preamps)

(1) Marantz ONE (Jeremy's)
vs
(2) Fisher 50C "Good All" 版 (NEC - pls. bring your 50Cs to come, OK?
vs
(3) EICO HF-65 (self-powered) (rcwy's)
vs
(4) Fisher 80C (modified at output coupling caps) (rcwy's)
--------------------------

Group Two (all stereo preamps)

(a) Marantz 7 (Colin brings in)
vs
(b) Fisher 400CX-2 (Tim brings in or??)
vs
(c) Radford SC22P (Tim's)
vs
(d) 27M preamp.

BLIND test should be maintained. Please lend out a pair of 屏風..!

NEC - Any chance to bring these to my workshop for the party? ^___^


rcwy
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221.xxx.xxx.250
2005-08-30 21:51
[#7334] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Eleven already? Could you guys make it Ocean's Twelve and let me in?

JL
johnnywalker
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61.xxx.xxx.111
2005-08-30 22:01
[#7335] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
JL,

Do come!
rcwy
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221.xxx.xxx.250
2005-08-30 22:04
[#7336] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
屏風
----------------------------------

Richard

I can bring along my LS3/5A wall : )



Gingers
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221.xxx.xxx.165
2005-08-30 22:13
[#7337] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Jeremy's pair of MARANTZ ONE mono preamps

rcwy
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221.xxx.xxx.250
2005-08-30 23:23
[#7338] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
http://203.215.242.37/avforum/forum_message.php?topic=59050830225154&sortby=3
rcwy
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221.xxx.xxx.250
2005-08-30 23:24
[#7339] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Jeremy,

Let me have your e-mail address to send you an account of findings about your pair of M-ONEs.

rcwy
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221.xxx.xxx.250
2005-08-30 23:28
[#7340] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
I completely agreed with what King suggested and to reduce the number of pre-amp to be tested. But I would suggest we add back the Fisher 400CX as I am keen to know if it does sound different from 400CX-2.


timtube
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218.xxx.xxx.115
2005-08-30 23:28
[#7341] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
Tim,

Let's make an exception to test 5 units in Group B.

BTW, the caps that I bought for repairing your pair of Knight monoblocs.

rcwy
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221.xxx.xxx.250
2005-08-30 23:36
[#7342] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
They are matched into pairs. The excessive two are too low or too high in value are excluded.

rcwy
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221.xxx.xxx.250
2005-08-30 23:39
[#7343] Leak Club for Leakies or Leak user    
May I know what is the brandname of these green capacitors?



Gingers
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221.xxx.xxx.165
2005-08-31 00:16
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