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[#61] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Hi lammy,

Congratulation!

Looking forwards to your report.
dkjg
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116.xxx.xxx.143
2007-10-18 01:05
[#62] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Dear brothers,

我將會裝修間屋,故打算把所有器材賣掉。List如下:

Source
- Analog
- Nottingham Spacedesk + Goldring elite (cartridge)
- Trichord Dino with Dino + (phono amp)
- 洗LP機
- 200+ LP
- Digital
- Slim Device Transporter (with box)
- Esoteric D-5 (with box)

Pre-amp
- Jeff Rowland Concerto (with box)
- Avalon design VT 747 ( studio signal processor can function as pre-amp )

Power amp
- Jeff Rowland 201

Speakers
- Bose AM55 (55WER)
- Cello Elvis
- Harbeth M30 (30th ann. limited edition) (with box)
- Speaker stand - Foundation designer II (with box)

Headphone
- AKG 701 (with box)
- Musical Fidelity X-CAN V3 (headphone amp)
- Audio Technica ATH-W100 (with box)

預計在十二月初開始賣,有興趣的朋友可pm我預留及試機。If you like you can make an offer as well.

希望可以賣給真正的用家而非....
dkjg
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202.xxx.xxx.52
2007-11-14 12:12
[#63] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Hi dkjg,

Please check mail.
SimpleLife
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193.xxx.xxx.92
2007-11-14 13:56
[#64] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Hi dkjg,

Please check PM.
SolidSteel
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137.xxx.xxx.3
2007-11-14 14:52
[#65] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Dear brothers,

Thank you very much. It takes me an hour to send pm to all of you. In case I miss out any of you, please let me know and I will reply as soon as possible. Thanks.
dkjg
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58.xxx.xxx.75
2007-11-15 00:53
[#66] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Dear dkjg Hing:

Haven't heard from you. Have you received my PM?
SolidSteel
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137.xxx.xxx.3
2007-11-20 14:14
[#67] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Hi brothers,

Sorry for no posting for such a long time.

The renovation work of my home will start after the lunar new year. There is a two months lag behind my initial planning.

In the last few weeks, I have listened to more than 10 pairs of speakers. Most are higher than 100k in their price tags. Initially, I am afraid I would find my M30(LE) inferior to all these expensive speakers and will lose interest in listening to my M30(LE). Surprising, most of the time when I back home and listened to my M30(LE), I just find I am loving my M30(LE) even more. Only 3 pairs of those speakers give me the urge / eager to change my speaker.

Or I should list all the speakers I have listened to in last few weeks. They are:

1. ATC tower 50A and 100A
2. Audio Note AN-E/Lexus signature
3. Avalon Indra
4. ADAM Tensor (partial active)
5. Pioneer S1EX
6. Sonus Faber Guanarie Momentos
7. Venture CR-8 signature
8. Verity Audio Parsifal Ovation
9. Quad ESL 2805
10. Marten design Bird
11. Dynaudio Sapphire
12. Westlake Tower 6
13. Thiel CS3.7

Will discuss more on tomorrow.
dkjg
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58.xxx.xxx.200
2008-01-11 23:59
[#68] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
dkjg,

lemme guess. the 3 pairs include atc and quad. bingo? :P
mikelee
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122.xxx.xxx.237
2008-01-12 10:10
[#69] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Hi mikelee,

利害,利害.

Yes, You are right. They are ATC A100, Quad ESL 2805 and Avalon Indra. Will talk more on each later.
dkjg
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58.xxx.xxx.200
2008-01-12 10:33
[#70] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Hi brothers,

After listened to more than 10 pairs of speaker, although all are much much expensive than M30(LE), only 5 pairs give me the feeling of upgrade rather than changing taste. And three of them really make me fall in love with.

The first pair is ATC tower 100A.

I have listened to this pair of speaker for 3 times. It has similar sound characteristic as M30(LE). If you like Harbeth monitor series, I think you will like the sound of ATC. I can just simply apply all my description of M30(LE) to A100, it is just to a higher level. If M30(LE) score 80, I think A100 will score 95 at least. So, although they have similar characteristic, they are just products of different levels, very clear.

I have also tried ATC tower 50 once. The price different between 50 and 100 is 20k. But A100 is much more better than 50 in all aspects, not just the base. Tower 50 will kick off M30(LE) definitely, but their different in performance is not as great as their different in price suggested. To me, tower 50 will score 86 at most. Yes, I know, hifi is always like this.

My concern:
1. the size of A100, it will like installing two medium size refrigerators in the living room. It is quite difficult to persuade my wife to accept them.
2. will the base too much for my listening room?

Yes, A50 will solve these problems. But I know I will still itchy to upgrade to A100 if I buy A50. And I am afraid I will miss A100 and just can't enjoy A50 if I buy A50. So a advice to brother who want to buy ATC A50, just don't listen to A100, otherwise you will fall into a very difficult situation like me.

Tomorrow will talk on other two pairs of speaker.
dkjg
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58.xxx.xxx.200
2008-01-14 12:03
[#71] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
dkjg,

waiting for your comments on the other 2 speakers. :)

mike
mikelee
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202.xxx.xxx.179
2008-01-16 11:01
[#72] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
dkjg hing,

unless you stop listening to other speakers (you listened to 10 pairs in just a few weeks!), you itch will never go away since you'll always find the next pair of speakers to change. playing hifi is about spending money, you don't get happiness until you've spent all your money. haha.
mahi
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218.xxx.xxx.115
2008-01-16 11:24
[#73] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Hi mike and mahi,

Thank you for your feedbacks.


The 2nd pairs is Avalon Indra

For Avalon Indra, I think it is a speaker of no complaint. Although its size is not big, even smaller than ATC 50A (I think), its base is very good in term of both quality, quantity and speed. For the sound stage, imaging and 'layering', I think there is no need for me to elaborate as this is the well known strength of Avalon. For mid-range and treble, it is also very attractive. It is very coherence. But you may think it should sounds that good for its asking price. But even I have very high expectation before my audition, it can still impress me so much so that I think it is one of the best speaker I have heard in last few weeks.

My concern
1. Certainly its price
2. I also need to upgrade my amplifier to 312, so it will be a huge investment if I buy Indra.

The 3rd pairs of speaker is Quad ESL2805.

It costs less than 60k. I think it is the cheapest speaker I have listened to in the last few week. But it is among the best sounding speakers regardless of the price. So it is the king of best-buy. It is my first time to listen to ESL speaker, I am shocked by what I heard. ATC make everything seem to be real by its high sound density and air surrounding the image, but ESL just make every performer seem alive without the need of high sound density. And the speaker is simply seem not exist at all. Its ability to disappear is even higher than Avalon, the speaker well known in this aspect. Incredible. No matter vocals, violin or piano, all sound alive, not just real. The replay of orchestral works is also excellent, very detail and give you all the 'layers'. Some people say its base is a bit suboptimal. But I find ESL 2805 has quite a good base actually. Its base is better than M30(LE) and SF guannarie momentos at least. And at least at the same level as Parsifal Ovation. I find it is enough for me.

If there is no need to take wife's factor into consideration, I think I buy it right a way after my audition.

My concern
1. it has very large surface area. My wife is strongly oppose.

Actually, only SF Guanarie Momentos can received my wife's approval.

Anyway I will take the second round of audition in the coming 2 weeks. The candidates including,
1. ATC 100A
2. Indra
3. ESL 2805
4. SF Guanarie Momentos
5. maybe Proac Response D80
6. or any suggestion

Will keep you informed once there is any progress. Thanks.


dkjg
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58.xxx.xxx.200
2008-01-17 00:26
[#74] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
If the price of 2805 is more than acceptable to you, why don't you have an audition of 2905? It should deliver lower bass. Anyway, good luck to your second round of audition! Btw, what is the fate of your M30?
mikelee
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202.xxx.xxx.179
2008-01-17 11:05
[#75] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Hi mike,

Thank you for your advice.

I, finally, make up my mind. Sell them.

I have few more words about Quad ESL.

After audition of Quad ESL, I know why it wins awards from Stereo Sound, Stereophile and the absolute sound. But I can't find any local review. Is it strange?

And also few more words on M30(LE).

I repeatedly see some brothers comment that the sound stage of M30 is flat. I think this is wrong, at least in the case for M30(LE). In my home, the sound stage is very wide and deep. Actually, this is the comment given by one local hifi magazine writer.
dkjg
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58.xxx.xxx.200
2008-01-17 22:24
[#76] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
6. or any suggestion....What about Rockport Mira?
Mr_Chan
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218.xxx.xxx.32
2008-01-17 22:34
[#77] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
dkig hing, if you are hooked on electrostatic sound you ought to listen to Martin Logan Summit too, they sound amazing with the bonus of sexy look.
嚦嚦二世
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58.xxx.xxx.152
2008-01-17 23:02
[#78] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Hi Mr_Chan,

Thank you for your suggestion. Yes, I nearly forget Rockpoct. I will arrange an audition.

Hi 嚦嚦二世,

Thank you for your suggestion.

I have an experience of listening to Martin Logan 5 to 6 years ago. I forget the model number. But not very impressive. I don't know the performance of their new model.
dkjg
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58.xxx.xxx.200
2008-01-18 00:32
[#79] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
dkjg hing,

Before you brought M30LE, have you compare it w/ Super SHL5? I would like to hear your comment on these two speakers.
Thanks.

Mr Chan
Mr_Chan
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218.xxx.xxx.47
2008-01-18 21:33
[#80] Harbeth M30 ( 30th signature limited editi    
Dear DKJG,

Actually, I also have similar experience with yours.

I listened many different kind of speakers, include Harbeth, Burmester, ASW, Quad, Dynaudio, Proac, Mcintosh, Merlin, Spendor... in Electronics show. The speakers make me feel good are,

1) Quad ESL-2905 (Speaker like disappear only music play in front of you)
2) Opera Callas bookshelf (not in market now, but very good soundstage and like disappear)
2) Avalon (Driven by Accuphase)
3) Harbeth SHL-5 (Smooth and natural sound)
4) Others - Proac is OK, Sliverline is very punchy

For the rest, I do not like Dynaudio tweeter sound, seems too cold to me. I prefer Seas driver sound.
And for some speakers using carbon fiber for their cabiet, none of them I like. The sound is too cold and the sound is to directional as well.

LFYeung
lfyeung
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219.xxx.xxx.136
2008-01-19 09:42
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