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| [#1] Bi-Amp or Monobloc Which one is better ? In the case of Bi-Amp, if each AMP is is 100W, is it totally 200W to push the speakers. All CHing please advise. Thx. |
veryFitman 正式會員202.xxx.xxx.144 |
2009-12-23 09:24 | |
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| [#2] Bi-Amp or Monobloc The term "bi-amp" means using multiple amps to drive the individual units in a speaker system. "Bi-amp" is a method or configuration being use to drive a speaker system. The term "monoblock" means a single power amp comes in its own case and power supply, instead of the usual stereo amp with 2 amps in a box and share a common power supply. "Monoblock" is how an amp is being packaged. So, what is your question? 最後修改時間: 2009-12-23 10:11:05 |
olddude 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.112 |
2009-12-23 10:07 |
| [#3] Bi-Amp or Monobloc Dear Ching: I mean which configuration will have better result ? |
veryFitman 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.144 |
2009-12-23 10:58 |
| [#4] Bi-Amp or Monobloc It very much depends on the quality of the amps in question. Of course, the best is to bi-amp multiple monoblock amps to drive the speaker. |
olddude 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.112 |
2009-12-23 11:26 |
| [#5] Bi-Amp or Monobloc Hi and Low frequencies of speakers are finely tuned and balanced by crossover to achieve a balanced result and smooth frequency response. If you try to separate the frequency sections through bi-amping, it is neither beneficial nor optimal. Dynaudio Condidence speakers do not cater for bi-amping and do not encourage user to do so. |
search1818 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.157 |
2009-12-23 16:47 |
| [#6] Bi-Amp or Monobloc 1st of all, Mono-block is a form of bi-amp. Say, if you have a pair of stereo amp, each 100W, using either a horizontal or vertical bi-amp configuration, and a pair of mono-block, each 200W, using a bi-wire configuration, then I would say, mono-block is better. |
Kenny 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.244 |
2009-12-23 16:57 |
| [#7] Bi-Amp or Monobloc hi Kenny, what is horizontal or vertical bi-amp configuration? |
veryFitman 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.144 |
2009-12-23 17:44 |
| [#8] Bi-Amp or Monobloc ＞＞1st of all, Mono-block is a form of bi-amp. If this can be established, then a Stereo Amp is also a form of bi-amp - it has 2 channels in one container only. |
zanua 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.22 |
2009-12-23 17:46 |
| [#9] Bi-Amp or Monobloc ＞1st of all, Mono-block is a form of bi-amp. Don't know whether I am too old or somehow, hifi terminologies had gone through a complete redefinition in HK. |
olddude 正式會員 58.xxx.xxx.112 |
2009-12-23 19:06 |
| [#10] Bi-Amp or Monobloc You have 1 pair of stereo amp: Amp #1 and Amp #2 Horizontal bi-amp : * You use Amp #1 to drive the bass drivers of your left and right speakers * Then you use Amp# 2 to drive the treble drivers of your left and right speakers Vertical bi-amp : * You use Amp #1's right channel output to drive the bass of your right speaker, and Amp #1's left channel to drive the treble of your right speaker * Same for Amp #2, right channel for bass, left channel for treble * Essentially this is very similar to a mono-block situation but you use 2 different channels of your stereo amp for 1 side of your speakers Sonically, vertical bi-amp is better than horizontal bi-amp especially if your stereo amp is a dual-mono configuration. Anyhow... say, you have a situation that you would like to do bi-amp (because of difficult load, or other reasons), and you need to consult your amp manufacturer, that if it is better to buy a pair of stereo amp, or, a pair of mono-blocks, the manufacturer would mostly likely advise you to buy a pair of mono-blocks (I guess it provides more power per channel so it improves damping factors). This, at least, applies in my case when I consult my amp manufacturer how I should do bi-amp for my ultra-difficult speakers (long time ago). Unless you have a very difficult speaker load that you require bi-amp application, otherwise, bi-wire (2 pairs of speaker wires) should be also very good. Hope this help. Have fun. |
Kenny 正式會員 116.xxx.xxx.244 |
2009-12-23 19:54 |
| [#11] Bi-Amp or Monobloc how about play biamp with two different amp? |
fhyyhf 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.199 |
2014-02-22 10:16 |
| [#12] Bi-Amp or Monobloc 我自己就較喜歡bi-amp.因很多牌子的頂級都是mono.block,但我覺平均功率大,而欠缺音色.但反觀bi-amp.很多時仍能保持基本的音色,而控制力好咗. |
leroy 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.6 |
2014-02-22 10:54 |
| [#13] Bi-Amp or Monobloc i like bi-amp more as well. |
odysseyhk 正式會員 1.xxx.xxx.1 |
2014-02-22 14:23 |
| [#14] Bi-Amp or Monobloc Finally set-up end-to-end balanced bi-amp. I'm so happy with the improvement with bi-amp!  |
odysseyhk 正式會員 1.xxx.xxx.198 |
2014-06-07 14:48 |
| [#15] Bi-Amp or Monobloc happy to share..what is " end-to-end balanced bi-amp" and the improvement by that bi amp method vs other you compared? interesting, and your speaker? i had some fun time with vertical bi amp... 最後修改時間: 2014-06-07 15:48:17 |
hahayanyan 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.22 |
2014-06-07 15:47 |
| [#16] Bi-Amp or Monobloc I'm using horizontal bi-amp at the moment. For the reason that I don't have 2 exactly the same power cord and worry that if I have vertical bi-amp, the left/right channel may be different due to power cord difference. I'm using the better power cord (with more micro details) for the ST-1000 MK2 powering the tweeters. So I did not compare vertical vs horizontal bi-amp yet. My DACs (DAC2 DSD SE and WaveDream DAC are true balanced design. I'm connecting DAC to pre-amp using balanced XLR connection. My preamp, STP-SE has 4 outputs. 2 balanced and 2 single-ended. I use the 2 XLR output of my preamp, connecting the two ST-1000 MK2 Power Amp. My ST-1000 MK2 power amp (although not mono block) in fact is dual mono design. So we have very good channel separation as well. My pair of speakers are new as well. Selah Tempesta 3-Way speakers with excellent speaker components. (RAAL Ribbon Tweeter with Amorphous Core, Accuton C50 mid, Scan-Speak 18WU woofer).  Note: you see a cheap power cord on the floor, that is only for the wireless router which is separate from the hifi network. Not what we use for hifi. 最後修改時間: 2014-06-07 17:52:29 |
odysseyhk 正式會員 1.xxx.xxx.198 |
2014-06-07 17:42 |
| [#17] Bi-Amp or Monobloc 我係1990年已經開始玩bi-amp，一直係用vertical bi-amp的，用過bi-amp之後，你一定返唔到轉頭。 |
木川 正式會員 14.xxx.xxx.204 |
2014-06-08 22:53 |
| [#18] Bi-Amp or Monobloc 真係返唔到轉頭!!! 勁正! |
odysseyhk 正式會員 1.xxx.xxx.198 |
2014-06-08 23:19 |
| [#19] Bi-Amp or Monobloc How big the difference is vertical vs horizontal bi-amp? I need to buy identical power and signal cable for vertical bi-amp. In horizontal bi-amp, I'm using best cables for the tweeter+mid right now. Thanks. |
odysseyhk 正式會員 1.xxx.xxx.198 |
2014-06-08 23:24 |
| [#20] Bi-Amp or Monobloc 用vertical bi-amp， channel separation會好些少，高音的一聲道用功率少一些，低音用多一些功率，如果用vertical bi-amp，擴音機及電源供應會輕鬆好多。 用horizontial bi-amp的話，低音用了同一個功率放大器，功率及用電就沒有那麼從容了。 |
木川 正式會員 14.xxx.xxx.204 |
2014-06-08 23:51 |
