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[#32] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好? #18因老麥有隻輸出牛不是一般石機設計，		Edo 正式會員 14.xxx.xxx.66	2018-07-07 19:23

[#31] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
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aheung

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219.xxx.xxx.3

2018-07-07 10:28

[#30] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
中！

孟波

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14.xxx.xxx.198

2017-10-11 10:22

[#29] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
"100w的082wins 500w的JF 500很多!"

JR有冇作大?

aheung

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219.xxx.xxx.10

2017-10-11 10:19

[#28] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
My contribution is to make sure you do not copy and paste something which is misleading and cannot be quantified.

I read lots of post in R33 and indeed including your posts, I wish there is a way to make your posts become invisible but it seemed impossible. I do not have your kind of 'Alien' ability to make things disappear.

How about other R33 members constantly remind you to stop copy and paste something which had not been filtered by you or you generally lack understanding in what you posted. You seemed to have that 'Alien' ability to make all those reminders disappeared.

The way you blindly copy and paste something which does not make sense and therefore I questioned by asking you to quantify your statement and it seemed you cannot do that because you simply have no idea.

So stop defending yourself for the sake of defending, I am not stopping you to make any contribution but will you make sure you know what you are posting instead of blind copy and paste for the sake of showing off you are such a knowledgeable person, many of your messed up statements you made throughout R33 over the years will only make people laugh at you.

There are lots of knowledgeable persons out there who knows a lot more on the subject than you and I.

最後修改時間: 2012-06-08 16:59:56

NAR

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218.xxx.xxx.16

2012-06-08 16:50

[#27] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
"""It concerns me reading something like:..."

the only way to cure is dont read my post and follow my posts everywhere like my doggy following me around. lol

u have not posted anything here about damping but just express your dislike of me. obviously u have no idea about damping and as a consequence u have nothing to write about the subject and contribute to this thread.

最後修改時間: 2012-06-08 16:16:48

cpu8088

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115.xxx.xxx.214

2012-06-08 16:13

[#26] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
"""Then I hope you have a full understanding of what..."

now u are hoping?

when quoting someone's opinion it is better to quote without modifications. thats what has been done and u completely could not follow.

without wilson u cannot hear proper mahler. irrespective thousands of speakers u have heard but only wilson speakers can interpret mahler properly. lol (this is a joke) dont take it seriously

r33 is for discussion of audio/video and other subjects. i cannot see it is a social club seeking friendship or in your case love? same sex love? lol

最後修改時間: 2012-06-08 16:09:55

cpu8088

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115.xxx.xxx.214

2012-06-08 16:07

[#25] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
How about the way you stalk other members with English, Chines and grammar correction and yet you often did not even have the correct grammar and English spelling. If you wish to be a teacher, you better earn people's respect first.

I merely tell you do not blindly copy and paste without first of all understand what you are copying and its in depth technical information. It concerns me reading something like:

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＞＞＞"You can hear a 10% difference in speaker control. Trust me!".

If you did not write this at all but merely copy from someone elses's post. Then I hope you have a full understanding of what that statement means before you paste it here.

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As for speakers, I listened to many different brands and model speakers and owned many of them, I also believe I listened to a lot more orchestra performances than you who is restricted to listening to sound and sound effect through your first rated tweeters.

Unlike you, YOU DO NOT EVEN OWN any speakers and tell other R33 members that their speakers (their pride and joy) are no good. I hope you have lots of friends out there.

最後修改時間: 2012-06-08 15:47:13

NAR

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218.xxx.xxx.149

2012-06-08 15:39

[#24] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
i do

now and then i always post some meaningful articles to ease the pain and save some valuable time in doing research for fellow r33 members

unlike u just know how to stalk me and dont read the posts properly

have u saved enough money to buy the x materials of wilson speakers yet?

最後修改時間: 2012-06-08 08:57:34

cpu8088

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115.xxx.xxx.214

2012-06-08 08:53

[#23] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
數字係死，只作參考，數字大唔等於Damping一定好，聽聲收貨~~

Jerryck

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58.xxx.xxx.180

2012-06-08 08:30

[#22] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
Your typical copy and paste without any thought at all.

If you are going to copy and paste something, you better have a better general understand of the content first.

最後修改時間: 2012-06-08 06:48:28

NAR

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42.xxx.xxx.191

2012-06-08 06:45

[#21] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
it was a clip from the link.

u must be blind not seeing the punctuations or read the link which included page 1 and page 2.

asking stupid questions do not warrant answer but this time i make an exception to point out your naivety.

最後修改時間: 2012-06-08 05:08:33

cpu8088

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115.xxx.xxx.214

2012-06-08 05:07

[#20] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
cpu, you wrote: "You can hear a 10% difference in speaker control. Trust me!".

How on earth can you manage that, do your ears are also some kind of instruments which can quantitatively measure this 10% difference in speaker control???

最後修改時間: 2012-06-07 23:16:55

NAR

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42.xxx.xxx.191

2012-06-07 23:13

[#19] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
"""Like most specifications, damping factor does not tell you an amplifier is "good". It can't; no more than a tuner with a great image rejection specification is guaranteed to be a "good tuner". There is a lot more to good amplifier performance than output impedance. Frequency response, mentioned previously, is a good example; suppose the amplifier had a damping factor of 10,000 at 8 ohms, a stunning number (because it implies a very, very low output impedance)... but could only reproduce frequencies between 300 Hz and 1 KHz? Your music would sound pretty awful. Another is distortion: Suppose the amplifier distorts the music? What good is it then to have the speaker do more (even just slightly more) precisely what the amplifier says? Not much! So don't let damping factor go to your head, so to speak - it's one of many specs, one where higher numbers are better because they tell you that the amplifier has a lower output impedance, which is good. Read all the specs, try to learn what they all mean, and then you'll be able to get a good picture of amplifier performance.

The bottom line is, a really low damping factor can tell you an amp isn't going to be all that great with a highly reactive speaker (the larger a speaker driver is physically, and the more power it is designed to handle, the more likely it is to be highly reactive.) What's really low? Well, if we're talking about 8 ohm speakers, a damping factor below about 30 indicates it's going to have noticeably poorer control of a highly reactive load as compared to an amplifier with a damping factor of 100. How much? It works out to about 10% worse (because you have to factor in the speaker resistance.) As the damping factor goes lower, it gets worse yet. You can hear a 10% difference in speaker control. Trust me! """

http://www.classic-audio.com/marantz/mdampingfactor.html

cpu8088

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115.xxx.xxx.214

2012-06-07 22:43

[#18] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
Mcintosh amps have only 40

audiophilelp

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123.xxx.xxx.132

2012-06-07 22:23

[#17] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
好此好深咁,都係無心機睇落去!
謝謝~

sumling

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219.xxx.xxx.171

2012-06-07 21:36

[#16] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
good read:

http://www.audioholics.com/education/amplifier-technology/damping-factor-effects-on-system-response

cpu8088

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115.xxx.xxx.214

2012-06-07 21:31

[#15] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
多謝cpu8088兄

sumling

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202.xxx.xxx.36

2012-06-07 20:50

[#14] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
My Burmester 082 damping is larger than 1000. Sound real and great than my previous amp like Jeff Rowland Continumn 500 and Goldmund 330. 推Thiel CS7 爆到飛起，100w的082wins 500w的JF 500很多!

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starhifi

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202.xxx.xxx.40

2012-06-07 19:56

[#13] Amp Damping 點睇好唔好?
gryphon diablo is 380

http://www.avhub.com.au/images/stories/pdf/Gryphon%20Diablo%20Review_Lo-Res.pdf?129016222906080000

cpu8088

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115.xxx.xxx.214

2012-06-07 18:53

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