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[#1] 車天車地 R33    
冇意中發現呢條連結
56 of the Worst Cars of All Time

覺得都幾有趣.大部分是美國車, 但其中幾架香港都有
R33 車迷不少, 不如開個車壇 post, 揀d車出黎吹下水, 好過日日政治爭拗
[車天車地] 係俗語, 大把人用緊, 雖然冇 copyright 問題, 都加埋 R33 落去

http://www.carophile.org/the-worst-cars-of-all-time/22/



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[#2] 車天車地 R33    
仲有Reliant Robin, Lada......



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[#3] 車天車地 R33    
F50 都入選 the Worst Cars of All Time, 哈哈.





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[#4] 車天車地 R33    
另外有 Best Looking Cars to Buy in 2017
第 18 的 2016 Ford Focus RS 同我架 Fiesta 都似似o地.




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[#5] 車天車地 R33    
[#2] 車天車地 R33
仲有Reliant Robin, Lada......
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屎痾凸, 又稱是9但 (斯柯達)都冇入

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[#6] 車天車地 R33    
BM 有三架都係 "渣" 車黎

(47) 318ti
(54) 2002 "柒" 糸 - 實至名歸!
(56) X6
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[#7] 車天車地 R33    
Re #3

條 link 話 F50 worst car 係非常偏見
係單指外型而言 “ugliest Ferrari ever built”, 各花入各眼, 大把拉利 fans 不同意

The engine was powerful, with a whopping 513 horsepower at the rear wheels.
The Suspension perfectly tuned, letting the F50 handle corners like the supercar that it is. Those faithful to Ferrari gobbled up the less than 400 produced by Ferrari without batting an eye

but the F50 was a hideous car. The Ferrari F50 is without question the ugliest Ferrari ever built. The troughs on the hood, the deep cavities in the side panels, and the wing that was a part of the rear fender all add to the hot mess that is the Ferrari F50.


“A custom-made F50 variant named the Bolide was commissioned by the Sultan of Brunei in 1998... At least two cars were produced in RHD. One was for the sultan, and was subsequently bought by a collector in Ireland. Another one is now in Hong Kong”.

生產兩架 RHD? 好似係指 special version Bolide

香港有幾多 F50 RHD?
就要問 R33 拉利專家 paul 少


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[#8] 車天車地 R33    
睇第一架已唔駛睇落去啦,1899年,佢試過未?
又係content farm。



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[#9] 車天車地 R33    
唔記得舉薦讀者由尾看起 (即是 No.56), 會較熟悉
1-6 都係上古車, museum 貨色, 除非對汽車歷史有興趣

No.7
1949 Crosley Hotshot
同廠另一款小房車, 香港當年有進口
筆者當時家居元朗, 父親和一位陳姓鄉紳 (太平紳士)相熟, 後者買左一架, 話非常慳油



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[#10] 車天車地 R33    

Full List

1899-1939
1899 Horsey Horseless
1909 Ford Model T
1911 Overland OctoAuto
1913 Scripps-Booth Bi-Autogo
1920 Briggs and Stratton Flyer
1933 Fuller Dymaxion
1934 Chrysler/Desoto Airflow
1940-1959
1949 Crosley Hotshot
1956 Renault Dauphine
1957 King Midget Model III
1957 Waterman Aerobile
1958 Ford Edsel
1958 Lotus Elite
1958 MGA Twin Cam
1958 Zunndapp Janus
1960-1974
1961 Amphicar
1961 Corvair
1966 Peel Trident
1970 AMC Gremlin
1970 Triumph Stag
1971 Chrysler Imperial LeBaron Two-Door Hardtop
1971 Ford Pinto
1974 Jaguar XK-E V12 Series III
1975-1989
1975 Bricklin SV1
1975 Morgan Plus 8 Propane
1975 Triumph TR7
1975 Trabant
1976 Aston Martin Lagonda
1976 Chevy Chevette
1978 AMC Pacer
1980 Corvette 305 "California"
1980 Ferrari Mondial 8
1981 Cadillac Fleetwood V-8-6-4
1981 De Lorean DMC-12
1982 Cadillac Cimarron
1982 Camaro Iron Duke
1984 Maserati Biturbo
1985 Mosler Consulier GTP
1985 Yugo GV
1986 Lamborghini LM002
1990-Present
1995 Ford Explorer
1997 GM EV1
1997 Plymouth Prowler
1998 Fiat Multipla
2000 Ford Excursion
2001 Jaguar X-Type
2001 Pontiac Aztek
2002 BMW 7-series
2003 Hummer H2
2004 Chevy SSR

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1658545,00.html
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[#11] 車天車地 R33    
Jaguar X-Type 簡直係Ford強姦Jaguar既產品。
Ford Pinto 直頭係當年讀書時既Case Study

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[#12] 車天車地 R33    
人哥條 link 冇呢架?

56. 2007 BMW X6
Called “The stupidest car in the world” by Top Gear the BMW X6 is an odd design choice for BMW. Dubbed a sports activity vehicle by BMW, the X6 is a mixture of SUV and sports sedan. Sadly the X6 doesn’t perform either of those functions well. Looks-wise the X6 succeeds, with a mixture of SUV stance and sports sedan styling, performance-wise it’s another story.

The tall driving position gives the X6 too high a center of gravity to be able to navigate corners like a sports car, while the off-road capabilities of the X6 don’t compare to a standard SUV. Over the years the X6 has found its stride, becoming better with each revision, but the first run X6 was a less than impressive merging of two worlds.


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[#13] 車天車地 R33    
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Ford Pinto 直頭係當年讀書時既 Case Study
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https://users.wfu.edu/palmitar/Law&Valuation/Papers/1999/Leggett-pinto.html

THE FORD PINTO CASE:
THE VALUATION OF LIFE AS IT APPLIES
TO THE NEGLIGENCE-EFFICIENCY ARGUMENT
Christopher Leggett
Law & Valuation
Professor Palmiter
Spring, 1999

Abstract
The cases involving the explosion of Ford Pinto's due to a defective fuel system design led to the debate of many issues, most centering around the use by Ford of a cost-benefit analysis and the ethics surrounding its decision not to upgrade the fuel system based on this analysis.

ISSUE
Should a risk/benefit analysis be used in situations where a defect in design or manufacturing could lead to death or seriously bodily harm, such as in the Ford Pinto situation?

RULE
There are arguments both for and against such an analysis. It is an economically efficient method which has been accepted by courts for numerous years, however, juries may not always agree, so companies should take this into account.

ANALYSIS
Although Ford had access to a new design which would decrease the possibility of the Ford Pinto from exploding, the company chose not to implement the design, which would have cost $11 per car, even though it had done an analysis showing that the new design would result in 180 less deaths.

The company defended itself on the grounds that it used the accepted risk/benefit analysis to determine if the monetary costs of making the change were greater than the societal benefit.

Based on the numbers Ford used, the cost would have been $137 million versus the $49.5 million price tag put on the deaths, injuries, and car damages, and thus Ford felt justified not implementing the design change. This risk/benefit analysis was created out of the development of product liability, culminating at Judge Learned Hand's BPL formula, where if the expected harm exceeded the cost to take the precaution, then the company must take the precaution, whereas if the cost was liable, then it did not have to. However, the BPL formula focuses on a specific accident, while the risk/benefit analysis requires an examination of the costs, risks, and benefits through use of the product as a whole. Based on this analysis, Ford legally chose not to make the design changes which would have made the Pinto safer. However, just because it was legal doesn't necessarily mean that it was ethical. It is difficult to understand how a price can be put on saving a human life.

There are several reasons why such a strictly economic theory should not be used. First, it seems unethical to determine that people should be allowed to die or be seriously injured because it would cost too much to prevent it. Second, the analysis does not take into all the consequences, such as the negative publicity that Ford received and the judgments and settlements resulting from the lawsuits. Also, some things just can't be measured in terms of dollars, and that includes human life. However, there are arguments in favor of the risk/benefit analysis. First, it is well developed through existing case law.

Second, it encourages companies to take precautions against creating risks that result in large accident costs. Next, it can be argued that all things must have some common measure. Finally, it provides a bright line which companies can follow.

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[#14] 車天車地 R33    
Worst car No. 29
Morgan Plus 8 Propane
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Morgan 香港有, Plus 8 就唔 sure
一般 Morgan 當然唔會用 propane gas 作動力

老美將佢 modified “with a tank of propane hanging behind the rear bumper”
就非常牙煙


In the early 70’s the U.S. emissions and safety standards became more strict, and Morgan ended up having to stop selling cars in the US.

In an effort to continue the life of the Morgan Plus 8, Bill Fink, a rich car dealer, managed to retrofit a Buick/Rover 8 and get it running on propane. For a few years people were driving around with a tank of propane hanging behind the rear bumper, making the Morgan Plus 8 almost as dangerous as the Pinto.


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[#15] 車天車地 R33    
鴉姐隔離 posted saab V4
希望佢唔介意老鬼 hijack 過黎吹水

呢架 V4 似係 2000 年 SAAB 被 GM 收購後產品, 有錯請指正





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[#16] 車天車地 R33    
SAAB 於 1945 在瑞典成立, 早期 models 係 2 stroke, 2-3 cylinders
Wiki 話 “The first Saab two-stroke engine was based on a DKW design”.
DKW 係德國厰, 最初生產電單車, 其後生產汽車, audi 前身

50 年代香港有 saab 和 DKW 在街行駛, 都係 2-stroke
老鬼 60 年代亦買過架二手 DKW

圖一係 saab
圖二係 DKW 和法國 simca



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[#17] 車天車地 R33    
#15:
呢架 V4 似係 2000 年 SAAB 被 GM 收購後產品, 有錯請指正
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錯! 係 67 年買老美 Ford engine


In 1967, Saab began marketing the 96V4, with the Ford Taunus V4 engine,
a four-stroke 1498 cc V4 engine, originally developed for the 1962 Ford
Taunus 15M.

Saab's project to source a four-stroke engine was dubbed 'Operation Kajsa'.
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[#18] 車天車地 R33    
DKW

約 58 年間, 返工附近有老闆用呢架, 顏色一式一樣, 驚為天人。
以 50 年代車款計, 亦算頂級?

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[#19] 車天車地 R33    
數年後 (60’s) 某天, 身為 car sales 細佬話:
“大佬, 有行家收到你既 dream car, 去唔去睇?”

當然立即去
其時 DKW 已成孤兒車, 即是車厰結業停產 (1964 被 VW 收購).
經紀數月賣不出, 又係行家, 還價即成.

該車仲係 cabriolet, 3 cylinders 2 stroke, 所以稱為 3=6
有 freewheel drive, 入左呢個波, 收油就 clutch disengaged 變成 N 波
跣 gliding 住去

與 overdrive 不同. 聽說當時美國大車 Lincoln 有此設備

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[#20] 車天車地 R33    
豆Sir,

記唔記得法國車Simca?
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