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[#1] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
各位 Ching,

請問 有關 半 Auto 波箱

唸住 15萬, 換架 半Auto波箱 的私家車
老婆冇棍波牌 , 只能買Auto...

尼類"玩"得下.波箱 系咪 耐用性好低.?...
老婆同我 Max Speed 110-120/km

thx



ef9
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2012-05-28 23:44
[#2] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
半Auto你指係自動波+/- 或者係真係行clutch的?
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2012-05-29 09:16
[#3] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
golf TSI or GT.

if don't mind older, GTI.

most fun 半 Auto for 150k.
seanbeer
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2012-05-29 10:38
[#4] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
>>>.半Auto你指係自動波+/- 或者係真係行clutch的?
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我是一個人 Ching,
請教下 2者分別...?
行clutch 係咪 高價車先有 ..? eg BMx M3...?

thx
ef9
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2012-05-29 10:54
[#5] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
>>>>golf TSI or GT.
if don't mind older, GTI.
most fun 半 Auto for 150k.
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Seanbeer Ching,
VW 個 DSG 波箱 好多人話 新車冇乜問題
D 2手 (幾年車) 好似 好多小問題....?
thx
ef9
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2012-05-29 11:02
[#6] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
VW 個 DSG 波箱 好多人話 新車冇乜問題
D 2手 (幾年車) 好似 好多小問題....?

yes, i agree, there is a risk, but just look at how many VW golf on the road, as many as taxi. but remeber:

if 100 car have problem out of 10,000 car. ppl will think it always ahve problem becuase there is 100 ppl shouting the car has problem adn the 9900 thinking he/she is lucky and say nothing.

plus, 10-20k can fix it at worst, its not a big deal. if you don't think this is acceptable, then consdier something else.

remeber with the DSG, you are having fun......not just car for transport....

my friend told me this:

"Want to play? got to pay !"

"want to be safe, stay away" <--- me new add.

seanbeer
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2012-05-29 11:10
[#7] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
行A/T +/-果D依然係用torque converter,所以個+/-只係幫踢上踢落,無咩skill。CVT果D梗家唔駛講。其它早期行clutch既(DSG 例外),其實只係automated gear change,所以對引擎轉數轉波等有要求,否則會好chok。DSG等新一代雙clutch設計原則上解決左之前既問題,但係都係用clutch既關係,都係會有磨損,用耐左都會有鈍錯感。如果玩DSG,最好揀DQ250 6速wet type (GTI/CC等),暫時聽VW用家講鑊氣較少﹔DQ200 7速dry type DSG (Sirocco/Golf TSI等)呢,就新車無得頂,行左萬零公里開始就有好多車主話開始有鈍感。
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2012-05-29 11:27
[#8] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
請問 日本車 款有冇 近似.."玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice...?

日本仔冇平價 呢類 波箱...???
ef9
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2012-05-29 11:40
[#9] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
>>> "Want to play? got to pay !"

Seanbeer 師兄,

都明要 Fun 就要代價.....
揸慣左日本車 "禁"用 穏定性....
自已又好少換車...(1楂就 10年8年 先換)

thx
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2012-05-29 11:53
[#10] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
>>>>>如果玩DSG,最好揀DQ250 6速wet type (GTI/CC等),暫時聽VW用家講鑊氣較少﹔DQ200 7速dry type DSG (Sirocco/Golf TSI等)呢,就新車無得頂,行左萬零公里開始就有好多車主話開始有鈍感。
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我是一個人 師兄,
甘 VW GT 是那1代 DSG...?
好似 單門版冇出 GT (HONG KONG).....?

THX

ef9
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2012-05-29 11:57
[#11]     
""禁"用 穏定性"

garage boy told me 10-20years ago you get this with Benz and BM, this 10 years, everything is comptuerised, even japanese car, its not as "禁"用 as before.

and garage boy also tell me VW audi u expect more small problem and cost more to fix..

more functions more things breaks is the rule, more simple less chance to go wrong. stay away from Euro car if you want "禁"用 穏定性.

but once you have played euro car, you might not want japanese car ever again..

techially , economically, speed, equipement, comfort japanese car all win.

but somehow , a certain feeling you only get with european cars, the imperfection, the non necessary details, the way the lights dim...., the sound of the turn indicators.




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seanbeer
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2012-05-29 11:59
[#12] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice     
VW GT = 7 speeds DQ200 Dry type DSG.

I am driving a 2006 Mazda 6 2.3 with 5 speeds +/- A/T. I have done 134XXXKM with it and frequently engage the +/- mode shifting between 2 to 5. No problem at all with the gearbox. (I, however, regularly take the car back to Mazda for servicing)

Seanbeer hing speaks the truth.

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2012-05-29 12:05
[#13] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
係都買 GTI
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2012-05-29 12:33
[#14] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice     
我是一個人 brother, you got the car that i want to buy, its hard to find on the market. i want one with Wagon back. i think it looks great for a japanese car and its mazda which i find is a under rated japanese brand, i rented mazda 2 in Japan when holiday last year, v good, just samea as all other japanese brand but much cheaper in HK.
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2012-05-29 12:34
[#15] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice    
Alpa Romeo 2011 4 door model seems to have the clutch based +/- gear (model 159??). But it is not that fast. The Giulietta having the dual clutch gear should be faster and more fun to drive.
My F430 uses the auto clutch based +/- gear but the clutch is easy to get wear if the driver does not have the proper technique. Changing the clutch needs some 60K.
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2012-05-29 14:27
[#16] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice     
Mine one is a 5 drs Liftback, what you're looking for (wagon) is even harder to find. However, with the strong Yen, a brand new Mazda 6 is about HK$330K, ouch, which I would go straight to a VAG/Bimmer/Merc.
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2012-05-29 14:34
[#17] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice     
If you are after an used Alfa, just stay away from the selespeeds, or, simply stick to a manual gearbox for good.
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2012-05-29 14:36
[#18] "玩"得下..... 半 Auto 波箱 Choice     
2003 mazda 6 wagon... HKD$51,800... wow...

http://www.28car.com/sell_dsp.php?h_vid=152411767&h_vw=y

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2012-05-29 14:52
[#19]     
nice mazda, i was looking for a more 'new' one as i was told to get the 5 speed auto box. (my old car is 4 speed auto, hated it, u drive 100km it is 3000rpm and very noisy)

well too late now, i bought something else.....

and Alfa............you will need a fair bit of driving passion to have the 'guts' to buy and keep a old one........the Giulietta is very nice.

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2012-05-29 15:23
[#20]     
睇樓主的 post 無話一定要有 clutch 的半自動波, 咁 150k 應該很多選擇.

我幾年前以 1xk 放售的 97 VRM 都有 +/- 波啦(4個波), 而家用緊的日本車都有, 兩部都係自動波底, 即係無 clutch 個種, 最用得多手動轉波的情況係入停車場慢車上斜.

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