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| [#4144] ESL Tim, I'm afraid you might be wrong in this respect. The 2154 is equipped with 2 mic inputs, one radio input which is a normal line input and other 2 for phono and film which are equalized by its proprietary transformers rather than by an equalization circuit. It's output is an 600ohm output transformer, a rather big round one.  |
cpsjj 正式會員219.xxx.xxx.124 |
2007-08-15 16:05 | |
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| [#4145] ESL CP, I stand corrected. I had confused this with the Klangfilm KLV-002 type of pre-amp. This is so much to learn about German vintage gears. And please share with us your progress in working with the 2154 + V69. The 2154 are very popular with Korean buyers. They must have figured out how to use them in hifi. |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.140 |
2007-08-15 16:24 |
| [#4146] ESL Schematic of the 6S Ela2145 which is very similar to the 6S Ela2154 except that the EF40 is replaced with EF86.  |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.95 |
2007-08-15 23:30 |
| [#4147] ESL CP, Do you have one or a pair? |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.3 |
2007-08-16 00:38 |
| [#4148] ESL Mr. Liu is actually a friend of mine - he is currently the director of mainland marketing for King's Audio and is very active indeed. I mentioned your comment to him when I was on the phone with him yesterday, and he wants to invite you over to his office in Kwun Tong. I have his phone number. Let me know if you want to contact him directly. |
richardlai 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-08-16 01:31 |
| [#4149] ESL Sorry, forgot to mention that the previous message was directed at Dennis. |
richardlai 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.183 |
2007-08-16 01:32 |
| [#4150] ESL Alas, I can hear something that has hope for my future set up. Don't you agree the performance of the speaker under such circumstance and set up is great and grand. Yes, may be you are right it is lack of something, something..... but what can you expect from such low cost equipment. Personally, I can't have such grand and enjoyable sound from my used Double Q, 63 or Acou. Applause! "CHINESE ESL' I would like to have one in the future. |
dnch 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.4 |
2007-08-16 13:07 |
| [#4151] ESL Dear Richard, Thanks so much. Please kindly check your PM for my contact. I personally would love to visit Mr Liu again and his office in Kwun Tong. Dennis |
dkyyu 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.217 |
2007-08-16 13:32 |
| [#4152] ESL Any brother and sisters wishing to join me visiting King's ESL again and their office? I shall be off duty next Friday morning and aternoon. I'll call Mr Liu's for his prior consent. Dennis |
dkyyu 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.217 |
2007-08-16 13:48 |
| [#4153] ESL Dear Mr Richard Lai, Thanks for sending me Mr Liu's mobile. I have just uploaded my contact number to your PM in-box. Dennis |
dkyyu 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.217 |
2007-08-16 14:05 |
| [#4154] ESL Dennis, Allow me to join. |
cpsjj 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.124 |
2007-08-16 14:06 |
| [#4155] ESL CP. I am afraid I have already counted you in. :) |
dkyyu 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.217 |
2007-08-16 14:37 |
| [#4156] ESL I would love to join too. But what if it is just Mr. Liu’s office plus possibly a small warehouse for the speakers? We’ll be wasting Mr. Liu’s time as well as ours. What we really like to have is a good audition of the speakers at their very best. Isn’t it? |
limage 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.252 |
2007-08-16 15:03 |
| [#4157] ESL but what can you expect from such low cost equipment. Personally, I can't have such grand and enjoyable sound from my used Double Q, 63 or Acou. ____________________________________________________________________ dnch, Do you have the double Quad and 63 in your current set up? I would love to refresh my memory of these lovely speakers that I enjoyed so much years ago. I don't have a clue about how much a King's ESL cost, but to say that they sound grander and more enjoyable than the double Quad or 63 is just beyond my imagination. I'm more than happy with a single pair of 57. But as feikeung remarked, whilst the effort of King is commendable, the ESL is still not up to scratch with the Quad as auditioned in the exhibition. Do you have a second opinion? |
cpsjj 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.124 |
2007-08-16 15:25 |
| [#4158] ESL Dear all, I am looking for a chance to hear ESL speaker performance. Please leave me a seat if possible. Thanks Cheers Sing |
taimonsing 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.11 |
2007-08-16 15:26 |
| [#4159] ESL taimonsing, You are welcome to my place any time. |
cpsjj 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.124 |
2007-08-16 15:38 |
| [#4160] ESL CP兄， 多次隨隊前來探訪，可惜放工後大隊已散，吾知可時方便?? 星 上 |
taimonsing 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.11 |
2007-08-16 15:54 |
| [#4161] ESL 星兄, Monday to Friday, office hours, I'll be there. In fact, I'll like you to visit dkyyu, PCS100 or myself first to get a feel of the typical ESL sound before being preempted by the King's ESL sound. Frankly I don't know how that sound and the comments so far collected are not entirely favourable. |
cpsjj 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.124 |
2007-08-16 16:14 |
| [#4162] ESL CP Hing, As I am working in TKO although I am living in Tsing Yi. It's quite diffcult to visit your place within working hour. Are you available in Sat morning? Cheer Sing |
taimonsing 正式會員 202.xxx.xxx.11 |
2007-08-16 16:48 |
| [#4163] ESL Sorry, I don't have such speaker now. The time of DQ was 1981, it is part of my HQD, 63 was 1990 and Acou was 1993.Single pair of them, sweetest is 57, Acou best in Bass and 63 is most analytical. But overall performance DQ is the best of 3. Every Loudspeaker has weakest and best in some ways and I just said what I have heard and also the others can say so. Nothing much. (such low cost equipment) are the pre-amp, power-amp,cables and socket-outlets, not the speaker. (US$32,000 is not low cost) |
dnch 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.4 |
2007-08-16 17:03 |
