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| [#4905] QUAD ESL 63 speaker Vs Maggie the Whore Even in the 63's manual, the amplifier requirement is 50-100W in 8 ohm! ------------------------------------- Well. Glad to have chance for Leak/ Audiomaster to meet Quad 405 :-) |
Gingers 正式會員218.xxx.xxx.4 |
2007-10-05 15:57 | |
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| [#4906] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore jcml, The first trial usually involves the exchange of documents, evidences, claims, quantum of loss, affidavit and the like of crushing bores. Hearing is likely to be adjourned to the weekend next. Please keep an eye on the official Gazette for the final hearing! |
limage 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.23 |
2007-10-05 16:40 |
| [#4907] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore drwkng, You are the project designer who holds free access to the Maggie Shrine anytime you like. How can we conduct anything academically without the Reverend Consultant? |
limage 正式會員 220.xxx.xxx.23 |
2007-10-05 16:49 |
| [#4908] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore How can we conduct anything academically without the Reverend Consultant? -------------------------------------------------- sugar! i know this is going to cost me dearly^-^ |
drwkng 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.222 |
2007-10-05 22:02 |
| [#4909] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore I think it will be a 公平, 公正, 公開的比試. |
jcml 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.9 |
2007-10-06 09:21 |
| [#4910] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore jcml, I do not see any inherent partiality in any member of the panel, except the host of course. He might be required to abstain from "voting". The irony is, his comments may prove to be most valuable. Does this not sound similar to the absurb reason for the existence of the "functional constituency"? |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.40 |
2007-10-06 09:49 |
| [#4911] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore Dear All, I was trying to fine tune the placement for the 63 last night, burning all the mid-night oils, and still left me sullen. Not much breakthrough. Had to give up at 3:30. It was the first time ever that my wife complaint about the loudness of sound heard from her room upstairs, even though the sound level was at least 3 db down from my usual preference. |
limage 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.96 |
2007-10-06 11:04 |
| [#4912] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore limage, Does that mean the 63 have a higher sensitivity than the 3.5, or other aspects that you found curious? This is the 63's impedance curve, doesn't look too difficult, you may like to try 4 ohm!  |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.40 |
2007-10-06 12:01 |
| [#4913] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore Compare with that from the 57. I sometimes query the prudence of using 16 ohm drive, or the statement that the nominal is 16 ohm.  |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.40 |
2007-10-06 12:05 |
| [#4914] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore Yes I do find something curious with the 63, which I have little idea yet. Will try different alternatives this evening. |
limage 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.227 |
2007-10-06 12:09 |
| [#4915] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore Patrick, This is the original coating process of the 63 in the factory. Certainly doesn't look any better than your meticulous work. But from the way they smear the coating on, the graphite should be, as claimed, in a nylon solution.  |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.40 |
2007-10-06 12:14 |
| [#4916] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore The stretching. Your rig may even be better. But looks like they only stretch the diaphragm along the x-axis.  |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.40 |
2007-10-06 12:18 |
| [#4917] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore And the shrinking of the dust cover, but is claimed, if otherwise, could be resonant prone.  |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.40 |
2007-10-06 12:21 |
| [#4918] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore Yes I do find something curious with the 63, which I have little idea yet ____________________________________________________________________________ limage, Height could be a critical issue. See the difference at 200-800 Hz between the 2 frequency response curves at 2 different height.  |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.40 |
2007-10-06 12:28 |
| [#4919] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore Height could be a critical issue. ------------------------------------- First, I raised the speaker 8" above floor on a plaster stool and it sounded better than level with floor. Then, I put the speaker on my son's wooden chair which is 12" above floor and it sounded even cleaner. That was the Saturday you folks listened. I know the Arcici stand raise the speaker 18" above floor and it can not be adjusted. Hope this will help. CP......I like the photos you posted. Everybody has their own ways to get things done. I am comfortable with mine. It will be interested to find out what kind of conductive solution used in the original coating. I wonder if it makes the sound change. Regards Patrick |
Pcs100 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.253 |
2007-10-06 14:41 |
| [#4920] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore Yes I do find something curious with the 63, which I have little idea yet ----------------------------------------------------- Interesting! limage......kindly share with us what actually have you find. Regds |
Pcs100 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.253 |
2007-10-06 15:31 |
| [#4921] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore The Arcici Quad Stands (from January 1987, Vol.10 No.1 - Stereophile, Sam Tellig) _________________________________________________________________________________________ The Arcici stands came at the right time in my life - just as I decided to forget about the Martin-Logan CLS and Apogee Caliper to stay with ESL-63s. I had been offered a pair of the Chicago Speaker Stand Quad stands for audition, but wasn't impressed by what I saw (I didn't have much chance to hear them). Most important, the Chicago stands don't significantly add anything to make the speakers' frames more rigid, which is what ESL-63s really need. Moreover, filling the CSS stands with sand or lead shot—as recommended—makes them weight two or three hundred pounds! You can hardly move them around, a big disadvantage for a reviewer (though perhaps not for you). The Arcici stands seemed much more promising. For one thing, they raise the Quads over 16" off the floor, while the old Stand and Deliver stands raise the Quads just over 8". I thought the extra height might be beneficial, raising the soundstage along with the speakers. Also, the Arcicis reinforce the frames, holding the speakers at the base and clamping to each side with setscrews top and bottom. You get other benefits, too. With the Arcici stands, the Quads become very stable. It would be hard to tip them over, which is otherwise a real hazard with the Quads, especially if mounted on the S&D stands with little kids or large dogs running around the house. The Arcici stands change the appearance of the Quads rather dramatically. The speakers look more 1986 and less 1963. (If you are buying a pair of Quads at the same time you buy the stands, you might choose black for the wood finish; it will blend better with the Arcici's black wrought iron.) The sound is affected, but not dramatically; it is, however, a definite improvement. Raising the speakers does raise the soundstage, and helps the Quads fill the room with music. The Quads can use all the help they can get in this regard, since they don't play particularly loud. Bass is tighter (the stands are spiked), and the overall sound has a little more clarity and definition. An altogether worthwhile improvement for $175/pair. The stands are a good value, too; that will become obvious when you see how well they are made. A lot of careful thought went into the design, and they can't be cheap to make. I'm surprised they cost so little. (Don't raise the price, Ray, the way John Iverson raised prices when we called his Eagle 2 a bargain.) You must fill the stands with sand or lead shot (or a mixture of both), however. Otherwise, they ring; besides, the added weight in the base increases stability. And you must install them carefully, to avoid damaging the speakers. If the setscrews are not firmly secured, you could have a disastrous crash; with the setscrews firmly in place, stand and speaker become one, each supporting the other. Be prepared, too, to touch up the stands with semi-gloss black spray paint; UPS can really rattle these around. (Actually, they should be wrapped in bubble pack for shipment so you don't have to worry about paint.) I don't regard stands for the Quads as optional, and the Arcicis are far and away superior to those from Stand and Deliver. With the speakers selling for such a premium over the UK price, it's nice that the Arcici stands are made in America. They are worth every penny and every Quad owner should immediately order a pair. (It's also nice to see us get a leg up—no pun intended—on the British, standwise. Bravo, Arcici!) If you have difficulty in finding Arcici, they can be located on (212) 724-6021. |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.40 |
2007-10-06 16:29 |
| [#4922] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore 2007 Classic FM Gramophone Awards announced October 4 2007 _________________________________________________________________ The winners of the Classic FM Gramophone Awards -the world's most influential classical music prizes - were announced yesterday at Londons Dorchester Hotel. Among the artists honoured this year is Julia Fischer, the 24-year-old German violinist, who has been named Artist of the Year following the world's biggest-ever classical music vote, involving 15 classical radio networks in 13 countries with a combined audience reach of approximately 14 million people. The coveted Record of the Year Award was given to Nelson Freire's recording of Brahms Piano Concertos, performed with Riccardo Chailly and the Leipzig Gewandaus Orchestra, released on the Decca label. Legendary soprano Montserrat Caballe was given the Lifetime Achievement award. Vasily Petrenko, the chief conductor of the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic, was awarded Young Artist Of The Year, while his orchestra were given the Classic FM Magazine Award For Audience Innovation for their work in bringing new audiences to classical music, including their virtual concerts on the internet network Second Life. Deutsche Grammophon was named Label Of The Year in association with SFH Optical Disc. Record producer Christopher Raeburn was given the Special Achievement Award. The full list of Gramophone Award-winning discs (with the record label in brackets) are: Record of the Year (and winner of the Concerto category) Brahms Piano Concertos Nelson Freire; Leipzig Gewandaus Orchestra / Riccardo Chailly (Decca) Baroque instrumental Handel Concerti Grossi Academy of Ancient Music / Richard Egarr (Harmonia Mundi) Baroque vocal Handel Messiah (Dublin version, 1742) Dunedin Consort & Players / John Butt (Linn Records) Chamber Haas and Janacek String Quartets Pavel Haas Quartet (Supraphon) Choral Brahms Ein Deutsches Requiem Dorothea Roschmann; Thomas Quasthoff; Berlin Radio Choir; Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra / Sir Simon Rattle (EMI) Contemporary Julian Anderson Alhambra Fantasy BBC Symphony Orchestra / Oliver Knussen (Ondine) Early Music Byrd Laudibus in sanctis The Cardinall Music (Hyperion) Historic archive Wagner Gottterdammerung Bayreuth Festival Opera / Joseph Keilberth (Testament) Historic reissue Moeran Symphony etc London Philharmonic Orchestra, New Philharmonia / Sir Adrian Boult (Lyrita) Instrumental Bach Cello Suites, Steven Isserlis (Hyperion) Opera Rossini Matilde di Shabran Conducted by Riccardo Frizza (Decca) Orchestral Prokofiev Complete Symphonies London Symphony Orchestra / Valery Gergiev (Philips) Recital Simon Keenlyside: Tales of Operas Munich Radio Orchestra / Ulf Schirmer (Sony Classical) Solo vocal R.Strauss Lieder Jonas Kaufmann; Helmut Deutsch (Harmonia Mundi) Editor's Choice Award Mahler Symphony No 2 Budapest Festival Orchestra / Ivan Fischer (Channel Classics) |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.40 |
2007-10-06 16:46 |
| [#4923] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore Concerts in the HK Arts Festival that aren't to be missed, on top of those of Maazel and NYPO. 15 - 16 Mar, 2008 Concert Hall, HK Cultural Centre The London Philharmonic Orchestra (LPO) returns to the Hong Kong stage with its newly appointed Principal Conductor, Vladimir Jurowski. Heralded as a 'conductor on the rise', and the most "creative force" in London (Financial Times), Jurowski's performances never fail to astound. Appointed music director of the Glyndebourne Festival Opera at the age of 28, and voted one of the 'world's top young conductors' by BBC Music Magazine in 2004, he received the Royal Philharmonic Society Music Award in 2007. The London Philharmonic Orchestra will be joined by two notable soloists; Nikolaj Znaider, one of the most sought-after violinists – noted for his interpretation of Brahms; and Jean-Yves Thibaudet, the charismatic and versatile pianist, who so eloquently captures the poetic, sparkle of Ravel's concerto. Jurowski will lead the LPO through two evenings of great symphonies – Tchaikovsky's Sixth and Prokofiev's Fifth – in the finale of the 2008 Hong Kong Arts Festival. |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.40 |
2007-10-06 17:07 |
| [#4924] QUAD ESL 63 Vs Maggie the Whore 1 Mar, 2008 Concert Hall, HK City Hall Hungarian-born pianist András Schiff is one of the most distinguished musicians of his generation. After winning the Tchaikovsky Piano Competition in 1974, Schiff went on to perform with the New York Philharmonic, Vienna Philharmonic and the Berlin Philharmonic orchestras. Famed for his Bach recitals, his wider repertoire includes Mozart, Haydn, Schumann and Bartók. Schiff will perform two Beethoven piano sonatas; The Tempest and Waldstein, and two works by Schumann, Papillons and Fantasy.  |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.40 |
2007-10-06 17:13 |
