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| [#1803] Quad ESL speaker Let's not forget mda's Croft OTL which will be quite interesting, if mda will be happy to join. |
cpsjj 正式會員218.xxx.xxx.147 |
2006-10-29 22:23 | |
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| [#1804] Quad ESL speaker NO problem. I'll bring the QUAD II/22. Let's fix the list and we'll arrange transport for all guests |
dkyyu 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.217 |
2006-10-29 22:39 |
| [#1805] Quad ESL speaker It will be WWII replay. The Axis (Germany and Italy) against the Allies (US/UK). |
cpsjj 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.147 |
2006-10-29 23:00 |
| [#1806] Quad ESL speaker If sobilly will be interested to join, then Japan will be grouped under the Axis. Allies friends remember to use Russian tubes!! |
cpsjj 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.147 |
2006-10-29 23:04 |
| [#1807] Quad ESL speaker Dennis can take my Croft to join the party if the time is not right for me to turn up. The only worry is the preamp to be used. Amongst the list I can asuume only Eico ST84 may fit the bill but I am not too sure. The croft is not sensitive enough to be driven by the passive. |
mda 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.76 |
2006-10-29 23:10 |
| [#1808] Quad ESL speaker Don't worry mda, I'm sure the V72 will fit in pretty well. I also have Eico HF85 and Fisher 80C standby. |
cpsjj 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.147 |
2006-10-29 23:15 |
| [#1809] Quad ESL speaker mda, Don't worry. Date not fixed yet because we have to wait for the full recovery of Graaf if not the ESL63. I hope cp can fix a date make convenient to owners of all contender. Regarding pre-amp, I believe Feikeung has owned a dozen for matching!! |
dkyyu 正式會員 210.xxx.xxx.217 |
2006-10-29 23:17 |
| [#1810] Quad ESL speaker mda, Just for curiosity, what is the input sensitivity of the Croft? For Graaf, it's 500mV, pretty easy to drive. |
cpsjj 正式會員 218.xxx.xxx.147 |
2006-10-29 23:22 |
| [#1811] Quad ESL speaker I am not familiar with esl 57 :-) Since Fisher 400CX-2 曝光過度. I am thinking EICO ST84 :-) ----------------------------------- Does this mean you honestly believe that the ST84 sound better than Fisher 400CX-2 when driving TL12.1? |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.188 |
2006-10-30 10:05 |
| [#1812] Quad ESL speaker Tim My 25A visited Dennis before and I think it sounded a bit dull with my Fisher & esl57. My EICO ST84 sounds relative open in my system though not as grand as the fish. It may be a better choice. Who knows? In fact I am thinking 12.1 + Fisher 25A + ST84 I remind myself there are many toys already :-) You know better than me. What is the reason why we collect so many toys? They just sound difference to our ears. Honest to say, I do not switch up my 12.1 & 25a everyday. 英雄慣見亦常人 對 12.1 & 25A，我刻意保留一些新鮮感 :-) |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.145 |
2006-10-30 10:22 |
| [#1813] Quad ESL speaker Gingers, Don't hesitate. Just bring both 12.1/400CX2 and 25A/ST84 then. |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.205 |
2006-10-30 10:28 |
| [#1814] Quad ESL speaker Does this mean you honestly believe that the ST84 sound better than Fisher 400CX-2 when driving TL12.1? ----------------------------------------- 非也 :-) 音響之路非這樣簡單，否則很沒趣。視乎配搭，不能一概而論 :-) 最終聲音立非取決於前或後級， 喇叭、礎魽B線材、聆聽環境、個人口味...... 舉例 12.1 + Fisher 在 KC Tannoy Black 有點暗，我事前無法預計，有了這次經驗，下次我就會帶 EICO ST84 或老佛爺去。 班門弄斧，見笑。 |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.145 |
2006-10-30 10:39 |
| [#1815] Quad ESL speaker 非也 :-) 音響之路非這樣簡單，否則很沒趣。視乎配搭，不能一概而論 :-) ---------------------------------------------- Agreed. But I guess for us is always - too many gears, too little time. |
timtube 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.188 |
2006-10-30 10:43 |
| [#1816] Quad ESL speaker Just bring both 12.1/400CX2 and 25A/ST84 then. ------------------------------------------------- Not too crowded? I think this time my 25A can not turn a somersault in you car :-) |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.145 |
2006-10-30 10:45 |
| [#1817] Quad ESL speaker this time my 25A can not turn a somersault in you car :-) ______________________________________________________________________ The 25A just wanted to show that it has a more agile sound relative to the 12.1's 暗. |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.205 |
2006-10-30 10:49 |
| [#1818] Quad ESL speaker too many gears, too little time. ------------------------------------------ The biggest problem :-) And my second problem, My ears turn bad!!! Several yearsago I could not stand el84 for long tome listening and now I can enjoy my 2l84 toys WHOLE day :-) |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.145 |
2006-10-30 10:50 |
| [#1819] Quad ESL speaker and now I can enjoy my 2l84 toys WHOLE day _______________________________________________ Is it a bad thing or a good thing?? |
cpsjj 正式會員 203.xxx.xxx.205 |
2006-10-30 10:54 |
| [#1820] Quad ESL speaker The 25A just wanted to show that it has a more agile sound relative to the 12.1's 暗. ------------------------------------------ This time. Not agree. 12.1 三極通透些 25A 去 Dennis 處是一次陰溝，失敗的經驗 |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.145 |
2006-10-30 10:55 |
| [#1821] Quad ESL speaker Good ears Good or bad ----------------------------------------- 有得有失 If you have bad ears，聽少些高頻低頻雜音，得也， If you have bad ears and you admit it，人聲拗撬會遠離你，得也， If you have good ears and hope others to endorse it, 你可能會變得挑剔，無法安心地聽音樂，失也。 |
Gingers 正式會員 221.xxx.xxx.145 |
2006-10-30 11:08 |
| [#1822] Quad ESL speaker As long as one can sit back and relax, listen to music, feel and get the message delivered by the music, then one has good ears and a good system, irrespective whether he can hear up to 22kHz or below 30Hz. He can listen. I think I have good ears, but I need no one to endorse it. I can 安心地聽音樂, but I also 挑剔 my system; so what am I?? |
cpsjj 正式會員 219.xxx.xxx.168 |
2006-10-30 11:25 |
